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18 January 2010 @ 02:36 pm
Being Human, Season 2  
Well Being Human finally came back last week.....what did you all think of the second episode of the new season?  BH 2x02 spoilers below, obviously....

Personally I enjoyed it a lot more than I did last week's epp, and not just because it was more Mitchell-centric rather than George-centric (Mitchell being my favorite character, and well you know how I feel about George! ;)). I just felt that it was more exciting overall, between Mitchell dealing with his murdering vampire friend, finding out that the coroner won't cover for the vampires anymore (I love the secret vampire society and politics), Ivan returning and continuing to be intriguing (though also a drama queen, lol), the bad guys listening in on the flat (though could that bug be more out in the open and obvious?!), the mysterious men with sticks returning and communicating, trying to get Annie through the door by FORCE, Nina leaving, Annie becoming invisible again at the end....lots of intrigue and action overall!

I also LOVED the flashback at the beginning with Mitchell, I wish they'd have more flashbacks on the show...Also Ivan was lots of fun, I loved his car, and when he was giving the rules of the car to Carl and whipping out his cassette tape it reminded me of this: xD



I'm glad George wasn't as much of a dick this episode as last week, although I was a little irritated with him when he was chewing out Mitchell about Carl--it's like oh I see how it works George, when the others were trying to get Tully kicked out it was YOUR house too, so you got to decide, but when Mitchell is trying to help a friend for a much shorter period of time it's "not just HIS house"? Very nice double standard there! *rolleyes* I hate though that Mitchell seemed to be taking over some of his dickishness from last episode this time around, although I understood his motives to be snappy better....still though, I hated that scene with Annie, more on that below....

I do think Carl presents an interesting dilemma though, because I can see why Mitchell felt obliged to help him, and pitied him--Carl certainly seemed heartbroken over it, I can see how he might slip one day, and Dan did love him.....

But IMO this whole episode affirms why Mitch/Annie is the only solution of happiness for them both, and why it needs to happen someday--because the episode emphasizes that Mitch will always endanger any human woman he has a relationship with, no matter how careful he is--not only in the disquieting example of Carl, but also in the nice little detail in the scene when Mitch and Lucy are sitting outside on that bench, which had a plaque on it in memory to LAUREN--the last human woman Mitchell had a relationship with and ended up killing. Annie, being a ghost, can't have her blood drunk by Mitchell, she's the only one who wouldn't be in that kind of danger from him. On the other hand Annie meanwhile continues to have awful taste in men (whereas Mitch is a good guy!), and also as we see now will always be in danger of turning invisible again to the human eye, while she would never be invisible to Mitch--plus with Mitch she would never have to worry about accidentally disappearing or being squishy, etc, and giving her ghostliness away....

Though speaking more specifically about Mitch/Annie in this episode, I'm still not happy at the lack of quality Mitchell/Annie interaction like that which occurred in season one--for instance I was expecting him to comfort her about Saul, since he has ALWAYS been understanding and kind to her and protective of her (while George has usually been the rude one who doesn't have the time or patience for Annie and her issues), but instead he had a very cold and total "ME ME ME" George-style freak-out, which made me angry and sad! >:( They seemed to be switching George and Mitchell's roles this episode, with George being the one to comfort her and rescue her and stuff....ugh! I keep hoping for good M/A interaction like last season and then instead we get quality George-Annie one-on-one! I know the BBC isn't going to explore a Mitch/Annie romance this series, but I sincerely hope that M/A get to have nice moments and still have their close, kind and caring bond of last series this time around--I really hope this isn't going to turn into another Arthur/Morgana in Merlin series 2 situation where after a season of great interaction they never interact nicely again, even though they live in the same home! :( Mitchell was also waiting for Saul at the hospital when he arrived, alongside George, and yet for some reason the writers decided he couldn't be in the same room with Annie like George was....and he didn't even ask Annie if she was okay after Saul, which again brings back unwelcome flashbacks to Merlin 2x04...*sigh* So that's probably my biggest complaint about the episode, and the only part I didn't enjoy. I also want to still see more trio action, I feel like there still wasn't enough.

Oh, and I also found Kemp's discussion of "the three types" (ghost, vampire, werewolf) to be pretty intriguing, does this mean there are only those three creatures in the supernatural world of the show? I do wish that he wasn't a fundamentalist Christian though, I feel like that road has been done to death on True Blood and other shows...*rolleyes*

So yeah, it seems the show is getting more on its feet now, and I look forward to next week! :) Hope Nina is okay, and doesn't end up in that bloodbath machine! :(

It'll be interesting to see how this season goes with two extra episodes. Also I am *never* watching this on BBC America again, the commercial breaks every 5 minutes (with a short spoilery clip of what will come in the next segment each time!) drove me insane, and just detracts from the viewing experience so much...

 
 
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galathea_snb: lom_resigngalathea_snb on January 18th, 2010 10:29 pm (UTC)
I think you'll set yourself up for a disappointment again, if you expect that Mitch/Annie will come to pass. This is about the depiction of a complicated friendship, and I don't think there'll be any romantic involvements between the 3 main characters. It is about the dynamics between all 3 of them, and they'll fight and bitch and they'll help and comfort each other in different combinations, that's what makes the show interesting. I loved the bonding moment between Annie and George and it was understandable that Mitch was too caught up in his own problems to see things from Annie's perspective for a moment. It just happens, that doesn't mean he isn't concerned for Annie. Just like George bitched at Mitchell, but in the end he did what Mitchell asked of him and helped him help Carl.

when the others were trying to get Tully kicked out it was YOUR house too
Uhm, but as far as I remember it were Annie and Mitch who asked Tully to stay in the first place, although George explicitly stated that he didn't want him around. And they only turned around when George has already been under Tully's influence. It's rarely been smooth sailing between the 3 in S1 either. ;)

I enjoyed the episode, especially the Annie plot - which visually and narratively was pretty much snatched from Life on Mars - but also the Mitch&Carl story. The 2nd season certainly starts of darker as S1 so far. I am looking forward to the rest. :)
sherrilina: Mitch/Annie (Being Human)sherrilina on January 19th, 2010 08:28 pm (UTC)
This is about the depiction of a complicated friendship, and I don't think there'll be any romantic involvements between the 3 main characters. It is about the dynamics between all 3 of them, and they'll fight and bitch and they'll help and comfort each other in different combinations, that's what makes the show interesting.

I have to disagree--on the BBC Being Human website/blog right after the episode aired in which Annie and Mitchell had that accidental almost-kiss, they had an entry proposing Annie and Mitchell as the perfect couple, and asking fans about the idea--showing that yes, the BBC at least *has* considered that angle, that dynamic/possibility, and perhaps even wrote in that almost kiss with this in mind--check out the entry here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/beinghuman/2009/03/the_big_question_are_annie_and.html

So this isn't some thing I just imagined up myself, after that moment I thought Annie and Mitchell had a certain chemistry together, and this *BBC* blog entry (similar to the more recent ones about the Saul/Annie/Hugh love triangle, etc) cemented the idea for me--so I'd say the BBC had as much of a direct role in setting me up for disappointment as I am. Given that there were many haters and negative fan replies to the topic, I worry about whether that would have influenced them or not on the issue.

And then Annie and Mitch always did have a special bond it seemed, you could see it too in their goodbye hug--he was always closer to Annie than George was, who was more annoyed by her (which is why them switching roles this past epp was especially irritating/bewildering to me). And George has bitched at Mitchell before in season 1 (he's always bitching and whining, it's kind of one of his core characteristics), so that didn't phase me so much.

Also, if it's about the dynamics between ALL 3 of them, then a) why aren't we seeing ALL 3 of them interact more often? (It's not just the lack of M/A I'm annoyed about this season, but the lack of scenes between the three of them period) and b) why aren't Mitchell/Annie getting any quality interaction? We've had George/Annie, George/Mitchell, but no Mitchell/Annie, the third leg of the dynamic...Mitchell and Annie have interacted more with Nina than with each other.

I do see why Mitchell would have been preoccupied and frustrated, but the fact that he didn't at least ask if Annie was okay...it reminded me of when Arthur just asked about Gwen without asking if Morgana was okay in 2x04. *sigh*

Uhm, but as far as I remember it were Annie and Mitch who asked Tully to stay in the first place, although George explicitly stated that he didn't want him around. And they only turned around when George has already been under Tully's influence.

But still, when they wanted Tully to leave George said no, on the basis that since he also owned the flat he made the final decision--but then in this case he basically said the opposite, that majority rules....I was just illustrating George's self-centeredness, which still irritates me, though he was a LOT better this epp than last one!





galathea_snb: drwho_lazygalathea_snb on January 19th, 2010 09:19 pm (UTC)
Well, I don't know any background info on the show, so I can just tell what I, personally, get from screen and I didn't really read Mitch and Annie as romantic. *shrugs* I like them all as friends better anyway. I don't share your animosity towards George, there were plenty of scenes in the last season where he was sweet and loveable. Sometimes he's bitchy yeah, but well, I don't mind that, as long as he doesn't make an ass out of himself, which - apart from in 2.01 - he never did IMO.

I think the decrease in quality scenes between the Annie, Mitch and George is mainly owed to the sudden increase of side-characters who started to interact with with the main three - like Saul, Hugh, Nina, Lucy, Ivan and Daisy - it just didn't leave enough screen time. I didn't particularly like that either, but with Saul dead, Nina gone and Hugh possibly out of the picture, because Annie is invisible again, I hope we'll see them more together again. I am pretty sure we'll see more Annie&Mitch interaction, it's only the second episode after all.
sherrilina: Mitch/Annie (Being Human)sherrilina on January 19th, 2010 09:26 pm (UTC)
Well, you also don't read B/B as romantic on Bones--we'll just have to agree to disagree, I guess we perceive different things....;) The most important thing is that you perceive Angel/Cordy! :D (Lol)

And as for George, I don't know, I've never liked him as much as the others, he's annoyed me before with his whining (pretty much the first words out of his mouth are a complaint--moaning about Annie making tea!), but I didn't feel outright animosity towards him until his actions in 2x01, when I also then went back and thought more about George--as I wrote in the BH thread on BF. I mean, he has his moments, like the "gay ninjas" line, and I can sympathize with the shy guy type, but....well, I just don't like him as much as the others! :) Though I still like the trio as a team interacting, I wouldn't want George to DIAF or disappear, he is integral to the show.

And yeah, I'm hoping with fewer distracting side characters that we'll get more trio action as well (not to mention A/M interaction). I just most of all at this point want to see A/M interact in a positive way--so far it's just him criticizing/yelling at her...*sigh*

galathea_snb: lom_wakegalathea_snb on January 19th, 2010 09:43 pm (UTC)
LOL well, true, I still don't like/see B/B and feel it is forced, think they would work better as friends, but whatever, I don't care enough about the show to .. care. :) It's also that I don't like shipping as much as I used to, I enjoy most friendship/family relationships nowadays way more than romantic ones. It has to be a really strong, interesting and mature romantic storyline to get me to something remotely to shipping again, like Roslin/Adama in BSG or Eric/Tami in FNL.

re George: Well, out of the three George is the one who has the hardest time to come to terms with his condition. Mitchell had 100 years to deal and still isn't quite okay and Annie only got really out of hand when she discovered that she was murdered. I am not saying that being a werewolf is in any way harder than being a vampire or ghost, just George's personality isn't able to adapt to it well, especially after such a short time. He is freaked out most of the time and so yeah, he is bitchy and whiny at times, mostly when he's scared out of his wits. But he's always been a good and supportive friend to both Annie and Mitchell. He can be the sweetest guy, too. :)
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sherrilina: Mitch/Annie (Being Human)sherrilina on January 19th, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
Apparently my last comment was too long...sorry for the length! :o Part 2...

I enjoyed the episode, especially the Annie plot - which visually and narratively was pretty much snatched from Life on Mars - but also the Mitch&Carl story. The 2nd season certainly starts of darker as S1 so far. I am looking forward to the rest. :)

Don't get me wrong, for the most part I also enjoyed this episode a LOT--I'm annoyed about the Mitch/Annie stuff, but it's not as major as with Merlin season 2, and I feel that besides that the overall quality of the episode is high enough that I still enjoyed it (unlike in Merlin season 2 for the most part).

I loved the Mitch and Carl story, though I admit I've always found the vampire society and storylines to be the most intriguing, and I loved learning more about how Herrick operated things, and seeing how now the vacuum has left vampires a little vulnerable to exposure. The scene with the coroner was chilling, and I loved the sneaky hospital and escape operation, and Ivan--can't wait to see more of him, I don't believe him when he says he feels no passion, his face in 2x01 when he say Daisy with George suggested otherwise....(and I love his car! :p). I look forward to seeing more about what will happen with the vampires, and with Nina, and with Annie, esp. her being invisible again--I wonder if Hugh will come around looking for her?

And yeah, I was bleh about Saul at first, but then loved the storyline once I saw it was connected to something bigger, to TPTB wanting Annie to cross over--I had forgotten about the "men with sticks" though from season 1. So the TV thing was from Life on Mars? Interesting....I thought it was hilarious (though I imagine it'd be funnier if I were British and knew those TV personalities), I especially loved the "Breaking News: Hugh is a Dick" headline! :p

And while I think the dark tone is certainly interesting, I also hope that they maintain the quirky humor of season 1 too, since it's one of the things I loved most about the show...



galathea_snbgalathea_snb on January 19th, 2010 09:27 pm (UTC)
Well, I am not as enamoured with vampire stories like you are, so I hope they don't put the main focus on the vampire subplot. While I don't mind Ivan and Daisy, I am not really all that intrigued with them either. But we'll see.

So the TV thing was from Life on Mars? Interesting
Yeah, well, not only the 'talking TV & Radio', but also the scene where Annie is in the hospital and the lights start flickering in an empty, dark corridor while she freaks out. That's right out of LoM too. *g*
sherrilina: Sam 'n' Dean (Supernatural)sherrilina on January 19th, 2010 09:35 pm (UTC)
Lol, ironically enough my first supernatural love was werewolves, not vampires! ;) But maybe it's George, maybe it's the crappy TV costumes (though they are MUCH better this season), but I don't find the werewolf storyline as interesting. I think it's not just vampires, but the whole "secret underground society" aspect of it that intrigues me--I mean, that's an aspect of HP I also loved, this secret magical world, or in the Georgina Kincaid books how there's this supernatural/immortal world of succubi and vampires and imps and angels and demons hanging out together and living their lives and doing their jobs unbeknown to most humans.

And I don't necessarily want to see the main focus on that either, I like Annie's subplot just as much, especially now that they've upped the ante. And obviously there's the Kemp storyline, which is intriguing, though I'm tired of using the fundamentalist Christian monster hunter stereotype, I feel it's over-used...

Yeah, well, not only the 'talking TV & Radio', but also the scene where Annie is in the hospital and the lights start flickering in an empty, dark corridor while she freaks out. That's right out of LoM too. *g*

Lol, lights flickering in a hospital/empty corridor, that sounds like something right out of SN too! ;)

Huh, I thought LoM was just time-traveling, didn't realize there was that stuff too...

galathea_snb: lom_isolatedgalathea_snb on January 19th, 2010 09:58 pm (UTC)
So far I find Annie's plot the most interesting, followed by the Kemp storyline, both are just on the right side of creepy to keep me entertained. LOL Not that I don't like the vampire plot, but well, it's been done so often now, I guess I am just oversated with it. :)

Huh, I thought LoM was just time-traveling, didn't realize there was that stuff too...
Heh, man, LoM has some really creepy scenes in it. Yes, there's time-travelling, of sorts, but the question is why does the main character suddenly find himself in the past- is he in a coma, hallucinating, dreaming, genuinely time-travelling? The show tries to keep the options open til the end and some very unsettling things happen to the main character over the course of the show that pull the rug of reality out from under his feet and make him question his sanity constantly. It's an amazing and unique little show, that I can only highly recommend. Only 16 episodes, too, so easy to marathon! *wink*
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Always distant. Always silent.: Being Human - Lucy and Trevorthemirrorofsin on January 19th, 2010 08:13 pm (UTC)
I'm rather liking Ivan and Daisy - though she will cause problems later I can tell.
As much as I adore Annie/Mitchell I have to say I'm rather Lucy/Mitchell right now. Only because BBC has liked dropped them as fast as AMor.
Felt so bad for Annie!! just when it was all good :(
sherrilina: Mitch/Annie (Being Human)sherrilina on January 19th, 2010 08:48 pm (UTC)
Me too, I/D reminds me of Dru and Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer...(Have you seen that?). I'd like to see more of Ivan (and his car, lol)....

I think Lucy/Mitchell is okay, but that Lucy is far too inquisitive for them to last, and that it's going to end badly. I think between the callback to Lauren on the bench and the example of Carl, the main moral is that long-term relationships b/t humans and vampires can't work....(whereas vampires and ghosts...;)). Same with the ghosts, never have to worry about disappearing from Mitchell....it is sad, I felt for her as well! :( Especially since Hugh was the first NICE guy she's ever been interested in! *sigh* I love Annie so much, I want her to make tea for me!

(It's funny, I feel like she is supposed to be a similar character to Gwen, but I just love her so much more, whereas with Gwen I've got this meh feeling, maybe because of shipping, I don't know. Maybe because Annie isn't shown to be the Standard of Morality. Do you feel the same way?)

*is now listening to "Samson" after our discussion* :D

Always distant. Always silent.: Being Human - Mitchell/Anniethemirrorofsin on January 19th, 2010 08:53 pm (UTC)
Lol you seriously love his car xD I have seen a few but never became a huge fan. Mainly cause I didn't like Buffy...

I like that about her and that could be good cause maybe they could work - she'd be a good vampire I think as well.
I know but for a reason I think I want Annie with a ghost or another human xD

It's weird cause I feel the same ^^ I dislike Gwen a lot and shipping does play a part but also because they always try to make her the 'good' one which I hate. I normally go for morally gray characters or evil ones - sometimes good depending xD
Annie has more life (lol oxymoron) and bounce as well being sensitive and supportive.
sherrilina: Mitch/Annie (Being Human)sherrilina on January 19th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
Ah, well yeah, I think it's worth watching snippets at least of BTVS for Giles (Uther!) alone...:D I do enjoy the spin-off series, "Angel," more though...

Lucy as a vampire? Hmmm, haven't thought about that....I hope Mitchell doesn't turn her, given how Lauren turned out, I don't want him to go down that road all over again.

And lol, glad I'm not the only one! I mean Gwen is supposed to be this cheerful, happy, adorable character, but I feel that more with Annie, and I think it might be because she's not as much of a goody-two-shoes....:p Especially when they started making Morgana look bad by Gwen....
Always distant. Always silent.: Actress - Katie McG - Morgana lookthemirrorofsin on January 19th, 2010 09:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah from what I have seen of Angel I prefer - David!!

Yes lol :P I've been thinking of how they can stay together. But no, not another Lauren - that was disaster! I suppose though Nina got told (had to but shh) so...?

Blah Gwen. Wish she ran off with Lance and let them be. But nooo! she will break Arthur's heart and ruin everything!!!!
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I forgot my name, and drowned.: [hp] cleverest witch of her agethedoingofit on January 21st, 2010 05:08 am (UTC)
I think I liked this episode MUCH better than last week's (and I liked last week's well enough, although it does seem rather dull in comparison... :o) ) - hopefully things will just keep improving!

The men with sticks! Interesting ... and sort of terrifying! At this point, I think that Annie's plot line is the most intriguing... I can't wait to see what happens with her character! *bounces*

They seemed to be switching George and Mitchell's roles this episode
OKAY. I'm glad that I wasn't the only person who's a little confused by Mitchell and Annie and George's characterization and interactions ... because that scene where Annie was telling Mitchell and George assaulting her? Mitchell and George both acted completely differently than I was expecting. And, I mean, I understand that Mitchell is under a lot of stress right now, but so is George! I don't know. Anyways, it seemed a little off to me, too!

only those three creatures in the supernatural world of the show
Interesting, indeed! I'd really like to see this explored a little more, though a doubt it will be! Definitely something to ponder.