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07 May 2011 @ 11:12 am
Carry on my wayward Cas....(Supernatural 6x20 Thoughts)  
Wow....lots of shocking TV episodes this week!  I meant to post about VD yesterday, but after watching the big SN episode I have to just do that first....O_o  Big SN 6x20 spoilers obviously:

What an episode!  To start with the bad: the voiceover and biblical movie montage at the beginning were SO cheesy and lame, I was definitely cringing throughout the whole opening! :/  And THIS is them finally breaking the fourth wall, even if in the end it was meant to be addressing God, which was also really cheesy.

BUT besides that I did think it was a good episode, I loved finally seeing some answers about what has been going on in heaven and with Cas, and I think it did a good job of showing the predicament he was in and how he came to make the wrong shady decisions he did--hell, seemed convincing to me!  I think that it's a bit much to say he's going darkside, though....IDK, when I hear that I think of say, Morgana on Merlin suddenly becoming all evil and shit, and Cas is not evil.  He is clearly very lost and confused and just making bad choices, partly out of pride and partly because he is pretty much between a rock and a hard place right now and cannot think of what else to do.  I don't think anything though was truly shocking about the epp, since most of it was either hinted at last week or I'd already thought of or read theories about...

I think it's obvious from the way it was presented at least that Cas did NOT intend for Sam to be soulless, the way he was all "oh well obviously I gotta raise Sam next! I'm so powerful, I can do it!" and then we see him checking up on Sam afterwards and beginning to realize his mistake--he said "that was my warning", and I think that he just felt guilty about his error and that's why he was ignoring Sam's calls during that year, and why he was acting off towards him, because he knew something was wrong already, that it wasn't the real Sam.  (On a ~SASSY~ note I did love that he was the one who tried to raise Sam "from perdition"--loved it when he told Sam this, the way he did--and when Sam said "he's our friend too, and I'd die for him, I would" (♥) though he knows Cas well enough to figure out something is wrong.  Also Dean's line about Sam being Lois Lane if Cas is Superman...:p ;)  I was glad when they didn't have him once again show up when Dean called but not when Sam called that one time).

I love that he still wants to protect the Winchesters (BOTH of them) above all, no matter what, even when it conflicts with my plans...really my heart was breaking for all of them in this episode, especially Dean's....but Cas too, at the end, lost and praying desperately for guidance from his father, and that angsty and bitter line about "freedom is a length of rope, God wants you to hang yourself with it." ;_;  Them trapping Cas with angel fire, gah, and later Dean's speech about how he considers Cas part of his family (which I've long thought, I love Team Free Will/the OT4), and how Cas is "like a brother to me", god it was all so sad! :(  I have to say though, more than ever after this epp do I feel that "Nobody's Side" from the musical Chess is appropriate for Dean and Cas after this epp, as I detailed in my last post here! ;)

I also enjoyed of course seeing so much more of Crowley, who was delightful as always had had some great lines like, "Angel of Thursdays...it's just not your day, is it?" (I C WUT U DID THAR show!).  Not to mention his new version of Hell, lol forever (though I think the torture thing had to be worse).  And naturally I was VERY excited at seeing the real Raphael again (I squeed when I saw Demore Barnes' name in the credits), being such a sexy BAMF in his suit and office (though come on, Raffi has better taste than being in a Republican heaven with Bush's picture on the wall!), if I do say so myself! ;)  Knocking Cas into next week LITERALLY and all that...and wanting to save his dear brother Michael from the cage Raffi/Mikey BrOTP for Life!  I kind of wish the Treehaus reunion had happened after THIS episode.  Still bitter about the female vessel/replacing DB.  And worried that Raphael is going to die, though I guess it probably has to happen at this point...:(  Though not the angel I am most worried about at the moment....

Other notable quotes:

-"Denim-wrapped nightmares!"
-"Because it's what I want"
-"My big brother knocked me into next week"
-"This is not how synergy works!"
-"Submit or die?  What are you, French?"
-"I'm still your friend.  Sam, I'm the one who raised you from perdition!"
-"Nary a hair on their artfully-tousled heads"


I wonder how they're going to resolve it all now!  If the OT4 can ever go back to being the way it was after this, if Dean and Sam and Bobby can ever find it within themselves to forgive Cas, if Cas can come to his senses and correct his mistakes to deserve such forgiveness.  I really hope they don't kill him off now, or that that isn't how he redeems himself! :o  I guess perhaps I need to bust out the Cas Prayer Circle icon for the 2-part finale in 2 weeks! O_o

Though man, Misha Collins must have been thrilled when he learned the juicy storyline they were giving him this season, even if he was absent much of it!  I always love a Cas-centric episode of course, but unlike with 4x20 "The Rapture"  (which I also personally loved) nobody can complain about Cas taking away from the story with a whole episode focused on him, since he IS the story now, the "Big Bad" so to speak, although not really...(I guess the true Big Bad behind it all is my bb Raffi...;)).

EDIT: OMG OMG I just realized--remember when the lamp blew out with Sam standing there watching Dean at the end of 5x22, and everyone was wondering what the hell was up with that, if it meant he was supernatural or still possessed or something?  Well NOW WE KNOW--CAS WAS STANDING THERE TOO ALL ALONG, HIDDEN! :o  It must have been him!  I love that we are finally getting that little piece to the puzzle/answer at long last, great little clue thrown in there at the time!

This beautiful string cover I found on Tumblr is my angsty Supernatural soundtrack right now as I think about this episode and Cas, lol.  Need to track down a copy of it...anyway, next post about the also major but more shocking recent VD epp!


 
 
Current Mood: sympatheticsympathetic
Current Music: "Carry On My Wayward Son" Cover by Vitamin String Quartet
 
 
 
shampayn on May 7th, 2011 03:30 pm (UTC)
"i would die for him. i would." i love that he said it so matter-of-factly, like we should have known that, i loved that line.

ugh if castiel has to sacrifice himself to get redeemed i'm gonna raise hell myself. this finale is gonna be so tolling on emotions.

raffi was a total boss in the ep. i def thought of you whenever he was onscreen. him in the library was so golden.

that string cover is gorgeous, i heard it the other day when it was floating around my dash!
sherrilina: Teenage Mutant Ninja Angel!Raphael (SN)sherrilina on May 7th, 2011 03:57 pm (UTC)
"i would die for him. i would." i love that he said it so matter-of-factly, like we should have known that, i loved that line.

Yessss I know, like DUH, he's my bb!angel, this shouldn't be news...(And Cas would die for him too, just as he would for Dean!).'

I'm just more worried than ever about Cas, because I don't see a place for his story to go next after this, and with the boys hating him right now and stuff...:(

raffi was a total boss in the ep. i def thought of you whenever he was onscreen. him in the library was so golden.

Lol TY I feel honored to be associated with such bossness in anyone's mind! :p This really has been Raffi's season, would have given me so much material on TH...oh well!
shampayn on May 7th, 2011 03:59 pm (UTC)
i am too. and i totes agree. i just yeah, i'm worried. :/

lol imagine the crazy posts. "dammit raffi's at it again..." we coulda had a lotta fun with this whole civil war.
sherrilina: Castiel (Supernatural)sherrilina on May 7th, 2011 04:12 pm (UTC)
Though at least this way I don't have to constantly deal with the whole gender bend embarrassment (lol), or Raffi's death when that happens! :(

OH and omg I just realized--we finally got the answer for why that lamp blew out with Sam there at the end of 5x22--because CAS WAS THERE TOO! :o
shampayn on May 7th, 2011 04:13 pm (UTC)
YES, omg i remember when everyone was tearing their hairs out over that
sherrilina: Castiel (Supernatural)sherrilina on May 7th, 2011 04:24 pm (UTC)
Lol we should have known, since blowing out lamps to make a ~dramatic entrance is like, Cas's favorite thing! :p
miss_nevermore: Lilithmiss_nevermore on May 7th, 2011 03:41 pm (UTC)
"Raffi has better taste than being in a Republican heaven with Bush's picture on the wall!"

^This. Judging Rafi(ki) soooo hard on this one. Haha.

And I will gladly join you in the Cas prayer circle, I have a hunch the finale is going to be painful...



Also: Why was I not following you on Tumblr before?
sherrilina: Cas Cannot Die (Supernatural)sherrilina on May 7th, 2011 03:45 pm (UTC)
I'm judging him as well! I think it was a ~misdirect so Cas wouldn't know where he was truly holing out in Heaven...;)

*joins hands, or icons, in circle of prayer* I'm even more nervous this time around, because after this big arc I fear that Cas's story may indeed have truly played out! O_o And how many times can Cas die and come back to life?

And ooh IDK, am I following you? Tumblr is confusing, with all the different names half the time I'm not sure who I'm following from LJ and who I'm not following! *follows if not already*
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sherrilina: Cas Cannot Die (Supernatural)sherrilina on May 8th, 2011 12:04 am (UTC)
Lol, upload away! It worked last season at least...though many of the others did not...:/

*prayercircleprayercircle*
Julie: Supernatural - Dean srslydecadentdream on May 8th, 2011 12:13 am (UTC)
My first (and most consistent) thought was that "the Dean/Cas shippers are going to love this". SO much geared towards the two of them.

To be honest I can completely see and agree with Cas' point of view on this whole situation. He's reasoned it out - what must be done has to be done, because there is no clear other way. He lacks that whistful hope that the Winchesters have, that no matter how bad it gets, there will be some miracle answer out there - you just have to find it. So I can see why he'd be calling upon his father for reassurance and direction now that he sees his path is not the optimal one, but he knows no way out of it. For the record, I also thought the opening was cheesy, but Cas' inherent biblical properties were calling upon something of that nature to refer to

I love Crowley so I was pleased to see him back around with much of a presence this ep. There is just something really charming about him, IDK. But really, his idea of hell is a pure stroke of genius. Instead of endless torture (which you will likely have some reprieve from, or eventually condition yourself to get used to/ignore the pain) conducted by somebody else, the torture now is conducive within yourself. You are the one choosing to wait forever in that line not that you can leave, and if you realise this you'll probably feel repressed, the onus will be on you when you reach the end and they say your behaviour whilst waiting was not optimal and therefore you must return to the end, you're the one who will be endlessly annoyed until the point where you flip out. It's an affectation upon yourself. I don't know how well I've explained it, but I can really understand it. And, for Crowley, it makes him look good because he's not really responsible for anything, it looks nicer and creates order instead of chaos (in the short term) which, again, endears him to others because he seems to be reasonable.

I am curious though... Raffi spoke like Cas was to free both Lucifer and Michael... if Cas pulled Sam free, does that mean Michael is gallavanting around out there somewhere also?
sherrilina: Castiel (Supernatural)sherrilina on May 8th, 2011 12:38 am (UTC)
Hmm, well I also see Cas's side with Crowley and the war, the one thing I find a bit less forgivable/more wrong was that once he realized something was wrong with Sam (which he obviously did when he watched Sam turn away from Dean, and which is why he ignored Sam's calls all summer), he should have tried to help him, or at the very least told Dean Sam was back, but wrong. It's Cas's refusal to own up to his mistakes where Sam is concerned--whether it be letting Sam out of the panic room and helping start the apocalypse, or now accidentally raising him without a soul--that is the biggest flaw/issue.

And interesting re: Crowley's Hell, though IDK, the way Dean describes it, especially how at the end you become the torturer...how do they corrupt souls into demons with endless lines exactly? O_o

I am curious though... Raffi spoke like Cas was to free both Lucifer and Michael... if Cas pulled Sam free, does that mean Michael is gallavanting around out there somewhere also?

No way, first of all Cas freed Sam before he even went up to Heaven and talked to Raphael and heard him say that, it was a completely separate issue, and he was against it anyway. And we know they are in the cage still because that's how Sam's soul has been tortured all this time, that it required a wall....if Michael were gallivanting around out there then he'd be leading the other faction right now in the civil war, not Raphael.
revelation means nothing here: I pray to Castiel...i_rise_inside on May 12th, 2011 09:12 pm (UTC)
The whole Cas narrating/talking to God thing didn't work for me either, sad that even Misha couldn't sell it. I got used to the voiceover, but when he was directly talking to the camera, i sort of cringed. :/

The episode was quite a relief, after so much speculation about Castiel turning evil, I finally breathed easy, he is misguided and foolish, he's desperate and making bad choices, but he is still the Castiel we know, fighting the good fight.

Again, i don't think he ignored Sam's calls cuz he felt guilty or anything, he was just waiting for Dean to call busy with the civil war and shit. From what i understood, Cas, looking back, in retrospect, could see that he should've known something was wrong with Sam when he walked away, but he didn't. I firmly believe he didn't know that Sam had no soul until the souloscopy or whatever you call it. And if Sam didn't care (or want to, as Cas must have understood) to let Dean know that he was back, i don't see why Cas would do so.

The Dean/Cas this episode ugh. i won't talk about it, you know all my feelings heee. What is this song you talk about?

I've always loved Crowley, but I especially adore where they are taking him now. The Castiel/Crowley dynamic is golden! Also, i think of you everytime Raphael turns up, I picture you drooling very inelegantly lolol.

I don't know why the boys won't forgive Castiel, I fail to see just he's done that's so terrible. Cas has to fix things and redeem himself, yes, but it would hypocritical of them all to remain angry for too long. I really hope he doesn't die, it's getting so old, and my heart cannot take it. :(

going to check out the cover...


Edited at 2011-05-12 09:18 pm (UTC)
sherrilina: Cas Cannot Die (Supernatural)sherrilina on May 20th, 2011 08:59 pm (UTC)
Guess I better answer this before tonight...:/ So nervous god, I hate that I'm going to be asleep while my bb may or may not be dying, wish I could watch live! Also worried about spoilers...

Again, i don't think he ignored Sam's calls cuz he felt guilty or anything, he was just waiting for Dean to call busy with the civil war and shit. From what i understood, Cas, looking back, in retrospect, could see that he should've known something was wrong with Sam when he walked away, but he didn't. I firmly believe he didn't know that Sam had no soul until the souloscopy or whatever you call it. And if Sam didn't care (or want to, as Cas must have understood) to let Dean know that he was back, i don't see why Cas would do so.

I disagree, he knew SOMETHING was clearly wrong, look at his face, and also look at the way he ignores Sam and Dean's calls in this episode at the end when he knows they will have questions he cannot answer--there right then we see his guilt in action, and I think it is definitely the same case over the summer, that he knew Sam was calling wondering how he was back (Sam says this is why he was calling) and since he couldn't think of what to say (since he realized it had gone wrong and didn't want to admit to doing it himself) he just ignored him, and later just claimed it was the war--as I imagine he would have done in this epp as for why he came so late to their call, had they asked. We see here he is not always away at war, but sometimes is present invisible, watching, choosing when to come and not. Also there's the simple fact of this: if he thought everything was okay with Sam, then why didn't he just say he was the one to bring him back when they asked him outright about it in 6x03? Unless he felt guilty about it because he knew something had gone wrong...now again, I'm not saying he knew it was the soul, but he still knew something was off (although one has to wonder how he missed the soul when everyone else could see it, etc).

What is this song you talk about?

"Nobody's Side" beg. around 1:50. Basically a song all about total disillusionment and betrayal.

Also, i think of you everytime Raphael turns up, I picture you drooling very inelegantly lolol.

:D Lol I watched the promo for the finale and afterwards was mainly like, "Holy Shit" and "I just see a BAMF!Raffi"! :p

Edited at 2011-05-20 09:01 pm (UTC)