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26 September 2014 @ 09:13 am
Outlander, Forever, and Fall TV Schedule  
Thanks to a free marathon promotion on my cable rn, I have spent the last few days marathoning the fantastic Outlander (in honor of Scotland's vote against independence, oop)! It is definitely my new favorite show. I had been hearing great things about it, and wanted to watch it even more once I learned that RDM and Bear McCreary of BSG were involved, so I am thankful I had the chance to catch up right before it tragically goes on hiatus. I cannot recommend this show highly enough if you aren't watching it yet. More detailed thoughts on episodes 1x01-1x07:

This show has it all--strong writing and acting, a female protagonist, dedication to developing characters and relationships (and taking the time to do so), beautiful cinematography and production values, gorgeous music (just like in BSG--I especially love the theme/opening credits), and an engrossing/compelling storyline. It's also just so well crafted--you can see Ron D. Moore's hand in that. Like the wedding episode--I was watching the "Inside" segment and RDM noted that since Jamie/Claire's relationship really gets into full gear after they have to marry, he deliberately began with their wedding night and did flashbacks, so that by the time you saw the actual wedding scene towards the end there was more emotional payoff. In another example, I loved the way the flashback of her first wedding abruptly cut to the present of her second one:

Jamie/Claire, of course, is another major thing I love about this show--one of those ADKSJK! ships where you get excited about every little scene between them, they have so much chemistry and such an adorable, lovely friendship dynamic. ♥

I loved that buildup, and while this wedding might have happened a little fast for me in that I wanted perhaps more UST, I think it's good that they didn't do anything until then--it speaks well for both their characters given the situation. Also love love loved that Jamie was a virgin on their wedding night--such a cute scene, he always has the best facial expressions! :p <333

As much as I am into Jamie/Claire, however, I ALSO REALLY REALLY LIKE AND SHIP CLAIRE/FRANK! (See: icon). That is something else that I really appreciate about this show--a lesser show would have skimped over her relationship with her husband to focus on her ~steamy Scottish romance~ (and indeed one review I read implied it would be like that), but in his case they really do take the time to invest the audience in that pairing as well, and to show how torn she is over the two of them. For example, I was initially surprised that she didn't travel back in time until 3/4 of the first epp, but it's good that they spent so much time setting things up first--like how adorable they can be:


And then the flashbacks have been really poignant as well--I particularly loved the one where he is sending HER off to the front lines in WWI and he kisses her from the platform before her train leaves:


The fact that they begin in 1945 was another pleasant surprise for me--I thought she was traveling from like today, aka the 2000s. I love me some WWII.

Frank/Claire is also made all the more interesting with his doppelganger ancestor Black Jack Randall thrown into the mix. That one episode when we had that prolonged encounter between them was all the more tense and gripping given the likeness--you can just see her in that first scene when he walked in drinking in the sight of his face...even as that face wears such a different expression. Tobias Menzias has been fantastic at playing these two distinct roles--and in both cases he has been a far cry from the floppy fish on GoT I knew him as! ;) (Sad that they will probably never include him on that show again, blech--but he has found better things). It's wonderful that RDM actually took the time to examine Jack Randall's perspective and motivations in that central flogging scene--even the villains on this show get excellent development and fleshing out. On another note, just think if Jamie or one of the others is ever poised to kill Captain Randall she would have to stop them, lest they prevent her Frank from ever being born! (Time Travel problems). It's also interesting how she has to go by her maiden name...loved the tension when Black Jack asked for her name! I wonder if and when she reencounters Frank, whether her encounters with Captain Randall will affect things. Speaking of, I was excited to see in the trailer for the mid-season finale that we are finally going to check in with Frank and what he has been up to all this time!

Speaking of familiar actors, I was also delighted to see Lotte Verbeek/Giulia Farnese from The Borgias again, now with a lovely Scottish accent!!! :D (I admit in my mind I refer to her rn as Giulia McFarnese).

Lol at her playing a very similar character, in terms of a clever woman being with an older, powerful man to have a comfortable life. She is certainly a very interesting character! I have been enjoying her friendship with Claire, and wonder if she will discover the truth with all her questions and inquisitiveness.

Finally, I love the sense of tragic inevitability hanging over everything once they revealed that the main Scottish characters are involved in Jacobite intrigue and that the battle of Culloden is in 3 years--after which the way of life we are seeing here will end and most of them will probably be dead.

In short, I hate that the show is going to go on long hiatus so soon, right after I discovered it--I have been enjoying it so much, and will really miss it! :( Who else is watching it?

+ Also now that Fall has officially arrived, I thought I might as well poat my Fall TV schedule:


Sleepy Hollow, 9 pm


Supernatural, 9 pm
The Mindy Project, 9:30 pm
Forever, 10 pm



Bones, 8 pm
The Vampire Diaries, 8 pm
Reign, 9 pm
Scandal, 10 pm



Doctor Who, 9 pm


Once Upon a Time, 8 pm
Brooklyn Nine Nine, 8:30 pm
Revenge, 9 pm
Boardwalk Empire, 9 pm*

*Am not actually keeping up with it this fall--I'm still not even halfway through season 4!

It's kind of funny how my shows have moved around and clumped on only 3 different nights, for the most part--when SPN first moved to Tuesdays it was my only show that night, and now look at it! Nothing now on Wednesdays or Fridays either, now that my beloved Dracula is gone (I don't know if I will check out its replacement, Constantine, yet). Although come early next year I suppose those days will be filled with The Americans and Hannibal. Not that I ever watch any of these live 90% of the time anyway, lol--how that has changed too.

As you can see, the only show I am adding to my schedule is Forever, because IOAN GRUFFUDD! <33 I first fell for him while watching Ringer, and subsequently realized he was the "Is there anyone alive out there?! Can anyone hear me?!" officer in Titanic who went back for the survivors in the water (and whom I delight in imitating always--"Right, noooobody panic!" /strong Welsh accent). I have been missing his face on my TV screen since Ringer's cancelation, which would have been reason enough to check it out, but the supernatural-esque premise is somewhat intriguing as well. I've watched the first two epps now:

It's not the most original and best written show (it borrows too heavily from "Sherlock" in terms of the constant annoying deductions about other people's lives), and I am not the biggest fan of the crime procedural, but so far it is working for me well enough that I plan to continue--mainly because Ioan's character is as delightful and Ioan Gruffudd-y as I was hoping for! <33

LOOK At THAT FACE, HOW CAN I NOT WATCH?! :D And I have been enjoying his dry wit/sardonic humor:

I have also been enjoying his unique dynamic with Abraham (it was a neat twist when they revealed that Henry had adopted/raised him--and now he is taking care of Henry!) and his interactions with Detective Jo Martinez are also enjoyable. I am still not sold on his big ~past love~ but whatever. Oh, and I also find it hilarious that the death-obsessed intern on Bones is now working in a morgue for a death-obsessed ME! :p What range this actor has, still talking about "cause of death" as he examines the body, etc. ;) (Hopefully this means he never shows up on Bones again!).

Anyone else watching this one?

Current Mood: enthralledenthralled
Current Music: "Skye Boat Song" by Bear McCreary ft. Raya Yarbrough
ericadawn16ericadawn16 on September 26th, 2014 02:50 pm (UTC)
Please tell you've seen every episode of Horatio Hornblower as I have, yes?
sherrilina: Arthur/Chicken (Merlin)sherrilina on September 26th, 2014 03:02 pm (UTC)
I have not, actually, alas! But I do know he is in it, and may have to check it out for more of his face...;)
wheatearwheatear on September 26th, 2014 06:33 pm (UTC)
Lord, you must. He is super delicious in it.
sherrilina: Cesare (The Borgias)sherrilina on September 26th, 2014 06:40 pm (UTC)
I can believe that! He is super delicious in everything...I wonder if it's on Netflix....
ericadawn16: Nostalgicericadawn16 on September 27th, 2014 05:30 am (UTC)
You see, I fell for a man named Commodore Norrington in 2003. He was played by Jack Davenport in the Pirates of the Caribbean films. Anyway, he was of the Royal Navy so I started to become a RN fan online and they INSISTED that I watch this series, Horatio Hornblower, which I was able to find uncut at my local library. It was absolutely fantastic and I absolutely fell for the man playing Horatio, Ioan Gruffudd. My mom as well.Of course, a comic book geek would have looked forward to a Fantastic Four movie no matter what but with Ioan playing Mr. Fantastic? My mom and I were SO EXCITED!

Not all of Ioan's projects lived up to the hype...like Fantastic Four 2 but all were worth the watch although I still need to find The Secret of Moonacre...which is free on Hulu??? SCORE! I also love King Arthur and Amazing Grace and when I'm in the mood for something cutesy, 102 Dalmatians...in which his love interest turned out to be his future wife.
sherrilinasherrilina on October 6th, 2014 12:46 am (UTC)
Heh of course I remember Norrington--who was surprisingly hot in the second film when he was more ~rugged (IMO). I was always more of a J/E fan, but I liked him too in the end. Sadly I don't see HH on Netflix, but perhaps I will check in my library (although I really need to get a DVD player...I only have the drive in my laptop rn).

I saw King Arthur, but didn't really remark on him at the time...I think "Amazing Grace" is where I really recognized him from most when I watched "Ringer."
ericadawn16: Amusedericadawn16 on October 7th, 2014 06:09 am (UTC)
Scruffington was very hot.

This was so long ago that I actually watched HH on my VHS player. However, it looks like most, if not all, are on Youtube.

Ioan was one of the main selling points for KA for me especially since he played Lancelot and I'm a sucker for guys with long, curly hair...Ioan usually has it so short most of the time.

Amazing Grace is such an under-rated film.
Rosa | ¯\(ºдಠ)/¯rosaxx50 on September 26th, 2014 03:00 pm (UTC)
Not reading your Outlander part because I've only watched the first two eps. I am impressed by your tv watching stamina, especially continuing OUAT and TVD even now.
sherrilina: Claire/Frank (Outlander)sherrilina on September 26th, 2014 03:23 pm (UTC)
Ah okay good move then, since there are spoilers for later episodes--but please do catch up soon, and then come back and read/let me know what you think! My favorite Frank/Claire scene is in episode 3. ;) I am excited though that you are watching and share my love of F/C! :D

I am impressed by your tv watching stamina, especially continuing OUAT and TVD even now.

Lol what can I say, I have a problem--once I start and am invested (which was especially the case with TVD), I have to keep going and see what happens next with the characters I once cared for...now I don't always keep up (with Merlin I finished the last season like a year later on Netflix), but yeah...and actually I did enjoy much of last season of TVD, with sassmasters Silas and Katherine keeping things interesting for most of it. How I wish Damon had actually died at the end though--or that he would stay dead. :/

And OuaT I did enjoy the first half of last season 2, with the Rumple stuff...meh, whatever, I watch it when I'm doing chores anyway. My Nook Tablet saves me!
galathea_snbgalathea_snb on September 26th, 2014 04:05 pm (UTC)
I, too, am really loving Outlander so far. I expected it to be corny/kitschy and am pleasantly surprised about its sense of realism, the gritty atmosphere, the slow pacing and the character centricity. Oh, I am happy you like Frank/Claire, too. It seems not many fans do. I thought Balfe and Menzie managed to infuse their characters' relationship with a lot of emotion and depth in the short time they had together, and since Claire's love for Frank is vital for her character motivation, it was important for them to get Frank/Claire right. And I think they did. It doesn't even detract anything from Claire/Jamie :) Anyway, I will certainly miss the show during the winter break. /sigh
sherrilina: Claire/Frank (Outlander)sherrilina on September 26th, 2014 06:15 pm (UTC)
Yay, I was hoping you'd be watching as well! :D I'm glad you are also enjoying it and a fan of Frank/Claire--I don't understand how people can NOT like them, given how well they have been set up. Like you say, they did manage to create a palpable emotional connection/bond despite spending so little time together onscreen before she disappears, and it doesn't detract from the also appealing J/C--I think it's the best of both worlds when both pairings in a love triangle are equally compelling like this!

I expected it to be corny/kitschy and am pleasantly surprised about its sense of realism, the gritty atmosphere, the slow pacing and the character centricity.

Same here--one review I read seemed to imply it was just a fun, sexy romp, but far from it! Hell, from that first scene when she's talking about the vase you know it's a deeper and more serious show...I love the slow burn of it, and the detailed character work.
Nina: <derrière moi> bettyhoneymink on September 26th, 2014 08:49 pm (UTC)
Ah, I loved "Ringer" and was really sad when it got cancelled. I remember Ioan from a movie called "The Gathering".

Did you read the "Outlander" book(s)?
sherrilina: Claire/Frank (Outlander)sherrilina on September 26th, 2014 09:17 pm (UTC)
Aw, another Ringer fan! <3 I think I remember that now, actually. You should definitely check out "Forever" if you liked him there--it's a fun little show, and he's a delight. I will have to check out that movie too! The only movie I have seen him in aside from Titanic is "Amazing Grace."

And no, I haven't read the Outlander books, and I'm not sure I want to while yhr show is on--unlike with GoT, I find the chara ters and setting sufficiently fleshed out and compelling in the show to not feel the need to seek it elsewhere. I know there have been some changes, so I don't want to compare--although it seems Like they are elevating the books in certain ways. For example, in an Inside Look thing the creator mentioned that he had stretched a 2-page encounter with the main villain to an entire episode to really delve into his character and up the psychological tension, etc (since it was the main villain). Have you read the books?

I hope you watch, I'm curious to hear your thoughts! :)
Ninahoneymink on September 26th, 2014 09:28 pm (UTC)
I've read the first book and didn't like it much. I was very excited about the show so I got curious and read the book. So far they haven't changed anything when it came to important plot points and I fear they won't change that one thing that was a total dealbreaker for me but that will surely only happen when the show comes back next year.

it seems Like they are elevating the books in certain ways.

They don't deviate much from the book but they do build more of a background and an atmosphere so in regard to that I agree with you that they improve on the book's world building.

I thought "Ringer" had so much potential... I always wanted to know what would happen next with Siobhan being pregnant and Bridget moving in with Henry etc.

I wasn't planning on adding any new shows this year but perhaps if I get too bored I might give "Forever" a try.
sherrilina: Claire/Frank (Outlander)sherrilina on September 26th, 2014 11:30 pm (UTC)
Oh dear, that doesn't sound good! D: Lol now I am rather nervous about the second half of the season...and I'm especially glad I haven't read the book yet! Are you watching the show then too, or just following along on Wikipedia?

Yes, all of that AND we never got to see Siobhan and Bridget meet again!!! (Especially after the latter learned the truth). Also I desperately needed fix-it fic for Henry/Bridget. :( And to see his reaction to his apartment getting trashed. I have to say, I was impressed by the actress playing Juliet in Vampire Academy.

Nina: <derrière moi> bettyhoneymink on September 27th, 2014 08:47 am (UTC)
No, so far I'm watching.I was so intrigued by those first few episodes that I picked up the book. And as I said, you're right - the show does a lot to improve on the book in terms of world building but so far they haven't strayed significantly from the plot (only switched a few things around, for instance in the show Randall tells Claire about how he whipped Jaime which I thought was a good move storytelling wise as it helped expand on the character whereas in the book Dougal tells Claire how it happened... but that's not a change of the facts merely a change of perspective) so I'm not sure what'll happen when we hit a certain point in the story. We'll see.

Love your icon btw.

Also I desperately needed fix-it fic for Henry/Bridget.

I couldn't agree more!!!

I thought Zoey Deutch was adorable... "Vampire Academy" wasn't a movie I planned on watching but when I did I thought it was surprisingly fun.
sherrilinasherrilina on October 6th, 2014 12:42 am (UTC)
It sounds like they have changed other things though, like Frank's characterization (he sounds like he was a dick in the books), which is an improvement too (and makes it more logical she would be motivated to return to him). BTW, is the dealbreaker you are referring to [Spoiler (click to open)]Black Jack raping Jamie? A friend let it slip when I watched the mid-season finale with him today...if that's not it though, please don't tell me what it is.

And thanks, I love the icon too, I was so happy to find such a good F/C icon right away! (I still haven't even found a C/J one I like, ironically).

I thought Zoey Deutch was adorable... "Vampire Academy" wasn't a movie I planned on watching but when I did I thought it was surprisingly fun.

Oh lol I love the VA book series (I would recommend them if you are in the market for some decent YA that focuses on female friendship and has some interesting worldbuilding), so I was definitely planning on seeing the film, but I was worried about it and Zoey's casting ahead of time...I ended up thinking she was perfect though (even if still whitewashed), and quite enjoyed the film for the most part, aside from a few things (like for example making Lissa's cuts on her arms a spontaneous side effect of her magic use rather than self-harm because of her depression--but maybe they didn't want it to be triggery.
Nina: <derrière moi> bettyhoneymink on October 6th, 2014 01:54 am (UTC)
Well, I thought Frank wasn't much in the first book at all so there wasn't anything about his character good or bad that'd make you feel one way or the other, Claire barely ever thought of him which I thought was pretty odd, they definitely did that better on the show.

And now that wasn't it, it was [Spoiler (click to open)] Jaime beating Claire and admitting to finding it arousing. I understood from a period/cultural point of view why he thought he had to beat her, so I suppose I could have dealt with that. But it wasn't a consensual experience at all and him admitting to finding excitement in her truculence and the beating... that was too much for me.

I read the books after I watched the movie. I'm not terribly fond of vampires but like the movie I thought they were good fun.

Edited at 2014-10-06 01:55 am (UTC)
sherrilina: Adrian/Sydney (Bloodlines)sherrilina on October 13th, 2014 03:49 pm (UTC)
Wow, that does sound awful and gross. O_o Although I feel that action doesn't really go with how he has behaved/treated her so far on the show, so I sincerely hope that they don't include that on the show. :s

And yeah, with the VA series the emphasis really isn't so much on them being vampires, which is nice (I often forget the vampire characters are vampires). I'm glad you enjoyed the books--did you ever read the spinoff series, Bloodlines? In many respects I enjoy these even more, in terms of the romantic ship and in terms of identifying with the main character.
Nina: <skins> waiting for better timeshoneymink on October 13th, 2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
It didn't necessarily go with his behaviour in the book either which made it so appalling. I mean as I said, I could have lived with it had he solely thought he had to discipline her because the other men in their riding party expected it from him to show that he had his wife under control and because he thought it was necessary since he was taught things the same way – enforcing the point by beatings so that you wouldn't forget it and act stupidly again. All that I could have lived with... it was the taking pleasure from it part on top of that was too much for me.

The show is better written than the book, so I do hope they just... do things differently there.

And no, I never read "Bloodlines" - does it contain some of the original characters?
sherrilina: Adrian/Sydney (Bloodlines)sherrilina on October 13th, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC)
And no, I never read "Bloodlines" - does it contain some of the original characters?

Yes--it focuses on all of the characters who were screwed over at the end of the VA series: Sydney, Adrian, Eddie, and Jill. Sydney is the main narrator, although books 4 and 5 have Adrian narrating as well. Characters like Rose, Dimitri, Lissa, and Sonia also appear from time to time.
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sherrilina: Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)sherrilina on October 13th, 2014 03:54 pm (UTC)
but do you really think they won't bring him back in GoT at all? I thought/hoped they'd show what happened to him and the Blackfish at some point...

Yeah you would think they would, if they cared about adapting the book faithfully--but this is D&D we are talking about, remember? The guys who cut Riverrun, Lysa's backstory, AND Lady Stoneheart, and who apparently plan to send Jamie to Dorne next season--clearly they don't give a damn about the Tullys, and want us to assume Edmure just died with the rest. Why include stuff from the books when they can make up different shit?! (And then claim they aren't adapting it faithfully only because of ~lack of time.~). *sigh*