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09 October 2010 @ 05:50 pm
I can't even...  
So I haven't watched this week's Merlin yet, but a moron on another forum just left me a nice little message without warning containing a MAJOR spoiler for it, and now I don't know if I even really feel like watching...:(

I think this episode can be summed up as, "CAN I HAZ REDIKULOUS RETCON PLZ?"

Because this has to be the mother of all retcons, and makes NO sense whatsoever in the context of the show past and present.  I knew that the Merlin writers are pretty terrible about continuity, but this is BEYOND the Pale, even for them.   For instance, oh yeah, Uther would threaten death on his own daughter, that makes PERFECT sense, writers! *rolleyes*

Dear Merlin writers, you are all asinine TALENTLESS HACKS, and I am DONE WITH YOU professionally!  >:(

I will continue to fucking ship Uther/Morgana, because I don't care about your fucking Great Retcon of 2010, he has always treated her in a not-very-fatherly fashion. There is crazy UST there too. When did you come up with this idiotic brainchild anyway?  End of season 2?

Oh and I was always going to ship Arthur/Morgana even if they were half-siblings (I originally thought they would be, and that there would be ~drama~ when they found out while romantically involved), so yeah, still gonna ship them too!  (Though of course shipping siblings is less squicky than father/daughter...).

Maybe I'll just watch season 1 and ignore the rest period.  Oh Merlin, you had such potential, you used to be so much fun, so fresh, what happened? :(


I suppose I'll have to watch this episode at some point but...ugh, just too pissed to deal right now! >:(  What a way to cap a meh day!

EDIT: Also I found a great Uther/Morgana fanvid to "November Rain" I'd recommend! ;)  "Nothing lasts forever..."
Current Mood: pissed offpissed off
Current Music: "Time is Running Out" by Muse
Iz: Morganaamaranthine3 on October 9th, 2010 10:38 pm (UTC)
I fully agree with what you wrote. When there were some spoilers earlier giving a possibility that they might do this I didn't want to believe that they'll mess it up SO MUCH. But when I saw this scene I seriously wanted to throw things at the screen >:( We all know that there is almost no continuity in this show but popping out with something like this???

I don't really know if I should encourage you to watch this episode or not - I have such mixed feelings because what they did is so below the belt but on the other hand if you forget about this the episode is not that bad (and I really liked the tension, music and the way they shot it).

Yeah, but I also won't give up my ships (I somehow shipped Uther/Morgana too because it always was something really intriguing for me, though obviously more Arthur/Morgana) and I feel like just watching season 1 and maybe from time to time season 2 but forget about the rest. In fact one of my friends asked me to lend her my DVDs and I'm so going to tell her to wstop watching after s1 (eventually s2), for her own good.
sherrilina: Boo You Whore Luci (SN)sherrilina on October 9th, 2010 11:22 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I had feared it would happen once the theory was suggested to me, but I was still hoping against hope the writers wouldn't do that....but they did! :(

I will watch the epp, I'm dl-ing it rn, but...ugh. Still SO mad. And yeah, I think saying to stop watching at the end of season 1 is probably a good idea--I'd be much happier if I had...
Forgotten memoriesblue_emotion on October 9th, 2010 10:59 pm (UTC)
My first thought at the reveal was 'on no! Poor Sherr is going to be so pissed' my second was 'wtf, HOW does that even make sense?'. It just doesn't fit with anything that happened before S3, AT ALL. Major fail writers, major fail :(
sherrilina: Arthur/Morgana 3 (Merlin)sherrilina on October 9th, 2010 11:01 pm (UTC)
Lol, aww...but yeah, it's just crap! :(

I feel a little better right now though because I just got bingo at bbcland! :D (Though it was the evening game I wasn't watching my card during, the morning game I got up early for was nada on all cards I was watching, because Nine was a lazy h00r and didn't show up in time, lol! :p).
Always distant. Always silent.: The Tudors - Katherinethemirrorofsin on October 10th, 2010 12:21 am (UTC)
oh god - I hate Merlin. It's offical.
I got spoiled and no don't know if I want to watch *sigh* I hate this - why father/daughter after all the crazy crap that's happened?! I DON'T GET IT!
Plus - ergh I'm good for the incest normally but on this show I don't want it - I want my Arthur/Morgana back! I want season 1! I want it to be a show I adored and spent crazy hours doing shit for it! No I just can't be bothered and this gets me both angry and upset!

Uther/Morgana had the creepiness going on and I liked that when I wanted to go all sicko and dark - now I guess I have to incest.
sherrilina: Arthur/Morgana 3 (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 08:09 pm (UTC)
I want my Arthur/Morgana back! I want season 1! I want it to be a show I adored and spent crazy hours doing shit for it! No I just can't be bothered and this gets me both angry and upset!

THIS, all of this....I used to love Merlin so much, and now? I don't even list it as a favorite show...:(
Always distant. Always silent.: Nikita - Amanda: Fading like a flowerthemirrorofsin on October 10th, 2010 08:11 pm (UTC)
I don't even list it as a favorite show...:(
YEP it's like: "I like blah blah - oh yeah and Merlin"
sherrilina: Arthur/Morgana 3 (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 08:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah, well the other day there was a friending meme on a comm, and when I didn't list Merlin on my fave shows someone was like, "Wait, you didn't put Merlin!" and I was like, "Yep, not a favorite show anymore!" :(
Always distant. Always silent.: Cracks - Miss G - Will you Desire me?themirrorofsin on October 10th, 2010 08:25 pm (UTC)
oooh damn Merlin has lost SO much support!
Mel: Fringe - Peter (wtf?)accordingtomel on October 10th, 2010 01:16 am (UTC)
Oh man, when I heard about the Uther thing (only yesterday), I KNEW people would be FREAKING out. I don't blame you for being pissed off. Not at all. This show is absolutely ridiculous! A lot of people on my f-list are PISSED off beyond words. You're not alone, hon. *hugs*
sherrilina: Uther/Morgana (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 01:28 am (UTC)
Yeah, the Merlin writers sure picked as great way to piss off a bunch of their fans! *rolleyes* And to make Uther look like a total asshole...great BFF you are, sleeping with your friend's wife!

Honestly though, the way they are writing it...it STILL doesn't seem very father/daughterly! I'm watching the episode now, and it's like, he's sitting on the edge of her bed, holding her hands in his, saying, "What matters is what we feel, that's what's important, not what the people think." HOW IS THIS A FATHER/DAUGHTER SCENE?! Seems more like ~forbidden romance~ to me, and I think it'd sound that way in a vid, too!
ladysophiekitty: Amor hugladysophiekitty on October 10th, 2010 04:42 am (UTC)

Also, a little weirded out because I didn't get the father/daughter vibe at all. I got the "I love you" vibe. Even last season when Morgana was like, "And you, Uther, will go to hell" I was like, "Dude, this needs hate sex like nao"

Oh well. I've shipped them before as brother and sister, I've shipped them before as Aunt and Nephew. This won't be different.
sherrilina: Arthur/Morgana 3 (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 08:12 pm (UTC)
Lol yeah, Arthur/Morgana I can deal more, because as you say, I've shipped them before when they were siblings (though it's going to be annoying as far as the comments I would get on A/Mor vids going, "But aren't they brother and sister?" and I can no longer say, "Not in this version!" *sigh*

But father/daughter....I don't think I've ever shipped a father and daughter before...O_o That's extra weird...but whatever, I'll just ignore the retcon and carry on my merry shipping way! :p And yeah, that scene...hatesex potential is definitely there! ;)
Jennifer: Merlin - Morgana's cloak of epichmsharmony on October 10th, 2010 07:31 am (UTC)
Just want to say again how sorry I am that this retcon screwed you over. But as you said on Skype, hopefully it'll be easy enough to just ignore it and you can have fun manipulating the hell out of some of the lines. *hugs* I remember my heart breaking when Harry said Hermione was "LIKE a sister" or whatever it was, so I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for you.

Hopefully what looks to be a set up of an uber Morgana story line will somewhat make up for this fuckery.
sherrilina: Uther/Morgana (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 08:20 pm (UTC)
Lol, though at least with HP he wasn't ~literally~ her sister (for all that some moronic Herons theorized that she was!), it was more akin to, well, Arthur saying that Morgana was like a sister to him in the beginning of this epp, before we found out how literal that statement was....

And meh, I'm worried now that Morgana will try to murder Arthur to get the throne, with no remorse or hesitation with this new cartoonishly evil persona of hers, and that would just be beyond lame and disappointing! :(

But thanks! *hug* I actually feel more inspired for U/M works I think now, with some of the new clips/scenes from tonight's epp! :p Like the line about it not mattering what people think...(and I got a new icon! Seriously, how is this a fatherly kiss on the hand?!).
Jenniferhmsharmony on October 10th, 2010 08:28 pm (UTC)
No, definitely! But I remember how angry that made me because suddenly someone had just stuck this big, old "familial relationship and that's ALL" on my pairing, and it was NOT a pleasant feeling. This definitely can't be any easier. :-\

If Morgana tries to murder Arthur to get the throne I will CRY. I'm okay with them becoming enemies because of some tragic misunderstanding (angssssssst), but having her try to MURDER him? Wrong on so many levels.

how is this a fatherly kiss on the hand?!

Um, it's a fatherly kiss that you might see on Dateline? XD
sherrilina: Uther/Morgana (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 09:23 pm (UTC)
Well at least JK then had her ~revelation~ that "Okay, maybe H/Hr could have happened" that was supposed to make us all satisfied again! ;) But yeah, in the same way I was like, "Um, closing your eyes at the touch of a woman, when she places her hand on your head, that's real brotherly all right...in the "Arthur and Morgana" sibling sense!" :p (Actually one of the thread suggestions I made at Fiction Alley Park for the HHr thread was something along the Arthur and Morgana lines! ;)).

And LOL! :D Indeed...
gemmacranmers on October 10th, 2010 11:14 am (UTC)

It was a bit odd. Ahh well, I thought it was a good episode otherwise?

I can ship incestuous ships haha XD. What annoyed me was the Arthur/Gwen scene. That was yucky.
sherrilina: Uther/Morgana (Merlin)sherrilina on October 10th, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
Well yeah, besides all the retcon stuff (the whole reveal and Morgana's reaction were also lame and OOC and stupid), it was a good epp, though I'm so tired of the hypocritical Dragon and Merlin murdering Morgana...

And well, even for me father/daughter incest is well, weird...but I'm ignoring it! :p

And well, yeah, I wasn't a big fan of that scene either, but at least it was brief and silent! ;)