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05 September 2011 @ 09:09 pm
Favorite Characters in Doctor Who, The Borgias, Supernatural and Dollhouse (Meme)  
So there's this meme going around:

a) Reply with "Fuck yes fierce ladies (and awesome dudes, too)" and I'll give your four fandoms.

b)Write about your favourite character(s) for each fandom.

sunnytyler001 gave me "Doctor Who, The Borgias, SPN, and Dollhouse"!

By the end you are going to notice a pattern, I think...;) I have a type. All gifs from Tumblr, none of them mine...

1. Doctor Who

While I love many people on Doctor Who (especially RoseDonnaMartha in the companion department), I think I have to go with the man himself, The Doctor, especially in his Tenth and Ninth incarnations...

I mean he's just this genius, quirky, dorky, mad humanoid alien who just wants to travel/explore in a blue police box and show off the universe to all his friends, and maybe save the world on the side, what is there not to love? :p I especially love his arc in New Who (thank you RTD), the way we see him work through the trauma/damage/grief he suffered during the Time War, losing all of his people and home world and being the one who did it...I don't know how he could deal with that. :( And then seeing him fall in love with Rose and become more human/heal with her help, only to then fall apart again when he loses her...;_;

Only to find healing again in Martha, and then Donna...and then get his heart broken all over again...and then go crazy....I loved Nine, but I also love Ten even more, and how he wears his heart on his sleeve and a sexy long trench coat on his body and feels SO much...what can I say, I have a weakness for extremely intelligent, tragic figures who go a bit mad, and this is only the first one of the list...;)

Runner-up(s): RoseTyler, Donna Noble, and Martha Jones

They all have their flaws, but moreso they have their courage and bravery and quick-thinking and are all brilliant and awesome, independent women who help the Doctor so much and save the world....again, what's not to love? ;)

2.  The Borgias

I love almost everyone in this bar, but my favorite is definitely Cesare Borgia, played so well by the talented Francois Arnaud! <33  This boy had already completely won me over by the first episode, or hell, probably more like the first 15 minutes of the show....I just can't help but find myself drawn to his angst over being trapped in this life he doesn't want, trying to please a father who prefers his brother and deal with his totally incestuous and wrong feelings for his sister, as well as his intelligence and cynicism/snark over everything in his world.  This boy has been breaking my heart from the beginning, and I have a feeling he will be doing so until the end....I love how in the beginning he only turns to more sinister and violent means because he wants to protect his family, but how as the season goes on he becomes more and more ruthless and his motives are going to change soon to more personal ambition.  There is a darkness within Cesare's soul, and I can't wait to see him descend further, while still all the while loving his sister with all his heart (hopefully!). I think this quote really sums him up for me:

"I was born with a stain. A mark. Like the mark of Cain. But is the mark of my father, my family. The mark of Borgia. I have tried to be other than I am. And I have failed."

So again, the extremely intelligent, dark, tragic, figure who has done some questionable deeds and is slowly descending into a kind of madness captures my heart as my favorite, go figure...:p

Runner-Up: Lucrezia Borgia

This is probably closer to a tie for me, I just love her and Holliday's portrayal of her sfm.  She begins as this young girl, somewhat naive, but much more aware of what's going on around her than people realize, and by the end of the season is already a total HBIC/BAMF basically saving the day by wrapping the King of France around her little finger, learning fast...as with Cesare, I can't wait to see her journey as she becomes even darker/more confident and closer to the Lucrezia of legend (though not as bad as the false hype).

Really though I think they can just count as one character though, two halves of the same soul...;)  Just LOOK at them! <33

3. Supernatural

I think this has to be the hardest of all, I'm just going to say the OT3 is my favorite, though in terms of absolute preference order, they go:

Sam Winchester

Dean Winchester


Yes, you just saw me ranking Sam first....because I think in the course of the last 2 seasons, I might have actually become a Sam girl, lawd help me!  O_o  I mean, I've always loved the brothers pretty equally, but in the past I always loved Dean just a little bit more...but Sam has just grown up SO much these past two seasons (esp. after mid-season 5)--matured, gotten over his anger management issues for the most part, accepted his weaknesses, gained new perspective, and redeemed himself for his failings in s4, etc--that I've been so proud of him and really come to love him more and more.  Though I still love Dean and all his snarky/badass/family protector and caretaker glory as well, and the tragic/self-loathing aspects obviously play into my "type" you keep seeing repeated here...;)

And Cas...I just love him.  Yes, he has flaws (they all do), and it's annoying that he still has yet to own up to many errors of the past, but I love all his different aspects--the "nerdy dude with wings" who's clueless about human pop culture and takes things too literally sometimes, the fierce and BAMF warrior of God, the alien angelic being who is also the humanized friend/protector of the brothers, the rebel angel learning to take a stand and go against all he knew, the faithful servant having a heartbreaking crisis of faith and spiraling into despair, etc.  I even loved his descent to the dark side a la s4!Sam for the most part last season, barring the very end...I love his expressions and his sexy long trenchcoat (as with Ten, lol)...and I am going to miss him so much when he leaves the show for good. :/  I love Supernatural before Cas came along (season 2 is still my favorite season last time I checked), but I admit now that Cas has joined the family, it's hard for me to imagine the show with him gone forever...O_o  I hope that if there is a season 8, the series finale will involve an epic flashback sequence a la "Swan Song" that includes all the beloved dead of the past, including Cas, JS. (Okay I'll stop now, I just have a lot of ~feelings~ about Castiel rn as the beginning of s7 draws looms closer, sorry!)

And last but not least...

4. Dollhouse

For this one my absolute favorite character is easily Topher Brink. He seems like such a horrible douche in the beginning (much like Owen Harper), but then as the season progresses you get to see all these layers to him and it's complex and glorious...he's this insanely brilliant genius who begins to actually go insane and crumble under the weight of his sins/guilt, once he realizes the full extent of what he has wrought...my favorite kind of arc! ;) (Again, type/pattern here!). His ending was so tragic and sad, and I'm still kind of pissed that he died (I mean really Joss, he couldn't have built a remote detonator, genius that he was?!), but I'm pleased he died a hero/saving the world and redeemed himself by the end. It pisses me off though when people think he has no morals just because Adelle says so at one point, the canon text begs to differ--the whole Claire/Whiskey reveal being his first major moral dilemma of course...god I love that storyline! And arrogant as he might be in relation to his intellectual capabilities, he still has some serious self-loathing that was best exhibited in his lines to Claire in their final scene (icon):

"Cause you're better than that...you're better than me!"

Close Runner-Up: Dr. Claire Saunders

Such a fascinating character, especially once we discover that she was a construct created by Topher all along, in what had to be one of the best twists ever...and of course Amy Acker did such an excellent job with her, as usual. I really hate what happened to her though, the way she just essentially dies offscreen, I will never forgive Joss for not making her a regular and thus having her missing from all season...:/

Anyway, I was really happy to get this one, since I haven't had the chance to talk about these two all that much here, and it gave me an excuse to use this icon, too! :D

I had hoped to post this earlier, but I got totally distracted by the epic win of the Supernatural season 6 gag reel...:p

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Paigeivorychains on September 6th, 2011 01:26 am (UTC)
Fuck yes fierce ladies (and awesome dudes, too)

(Make the fandoms ones that I actually watch, listed in my profile. lol And sweet post, love it!)
sherrilina: Dean Smilie (Supernatural)sherrilina on September 6th, 2011 01:32 am (UTC)
Lol thanks, and of course I would only do shows you watch! ;) Taken from your interests:

Misfits, The Vampire Diaries, Merlin, and Supernatural
Paigeivorychains on September 6th, 2011 01:50 am (UTC)
Very nice! I'll do it like tomorrow or something, whenever I have the time. :)
ericadawn16: Optimismericadawn16 on September 6th, 2011 02:18 am (UTC)
Oh screw it "Fuck yes fierce ladies (and awesome dudes, too)"
sherrilina: 9/Rose (Doctor Who)sherrilina on September 6th, 2011 02:23 am (UTC)
Heh these memes can be hard to resist, no? :p

Okay: Torchwood, Doctor Who, Being Human, Merlin! ;)
Nina: <cj> even Lily/Jordan can't believe it!honeymink on September 6th, 2011 04:22 am (UTC)
I can't wait to see her journey as she becomes even darker/more confident and closer to the Lucrezia of legend (though not as bad as the false hype)

My thoughts exactly! :)

Oh man, Dollhouse... completely forgot about that show already. *scratches head*

"Fuck yes fierce ladies (and awesome dudes, too)" or with the words of the Doctor: Allons-y!
sherrilina: Ten (Doctor Who)sherrilina on September 6th, 2011 04:36 am (UTC)
Oh did you watch Dollhouse? Yeah, it came and went pretty briefly...:/

Oooh Allons-y, well said! :p Okay your fandoms to do are Doctor Who, The Borgias, True Blood, and Supernatural! :D
Nina: <hex> good timeshoneymink on September 6th, 2011 04:28 pm (UTC)
Yes I watched Dollhouse back in the day. I wasn't too taken by it, to be honest. But then I watch a lot of stuff that is rubbish. ;)

And here's my list: http://honeymink.livejournal.com/176550.html
sherrilina: Topher/Claire (Dollhouse)sherrilina on September 8th, 2011 10:15 pm (UTC)
Hmm how far did you get in it? I thought it was pretty rubbish too until later in season 1, and I'm not entirely happy with the end, but there were parts that were pretty brilliant and worth-watching, IMO. I think it was canceled too soon (which is partly why the ending was not so great, they had to rush it).
Nina: <gw> found ithoneymink on September 9th, 2011 04:16 pm (UTC)
Oh, I watched all of it. I liked the parts with Summer Glau though?!
galathea_snb: sam_simplegalathea_snb on September 6th, 2011 07:55 am (UTC)
Wow, you became a Sam!girl! Who would have thought that?! *g* I have to admit, I have Sam leanings as well. I started the show as a Sam girl, after all, even though I was a Dean girl for quite some time, too. But Sam's complex story in S4 and his subsequent redemption arc - the way he matured and became more self-aware - kind of reverted my focus again. Nowadays I would describe myself as 'bibro with a slight Sam bias'. Part of it is of course that throughout the show I strongly identified with Sam - we share a lot of character traits and some of our personal biography - so I can relate to Sam better than to Dean sometimes.

But well, what I love best is still Sam'n'Dean, the dynamic duo. Neither Dean alone nor Sam alone make me as happy as the both of them together. *g*
sherrilina: Sam 'n' Dean (Supernatural)sherrilina on September 12th, 2011 03:38 am (UTC)
Yep, it's crazy alright! :D Oh wow, I'd forgotten that you originally had Sam leanings, I just remembered you saying you liked Dean a little better...and well of course it goes without saying that when I say I'm a Sam girl now, I mean he's like an inch ahead of Dean in my personal standings, I still love them both almost equally and as a unit! ;) Frankly I will never understand how someone could honestly dislike one of them given how much they love each other...

In terms of relating I suppose I would relate more to Sam just as far as being more scholarly/nerdy and intellectual and such, but it wasn't enough for me to prefer him in the beginning...*shrug*

I really need to find myself an icon though of just Sam and/or Jared...
sunnytyler001: deansunnytyler001 on September 6th, 2011 08:11 am (UTC)
Topher & Claire!!!! Cesare & Lucreztia! Cas & the Winchesters! Ten & his companions! We share soooo many favourites!!! :D
sherrilina: Topher/Claire (Dollhouse)sherrilina on September 9th, 2011 12:15 pm (UTC)
Yay, glad to hear it! :D Especially in the case of Topher, since I know he's one of those controversial characters a lot of people hate on, though it breaks my heart...thanks for the fandom choices! ;)
I forgot my name, and drowned.: [borgias] peepholethedoingofit on September 11th, 2011 06:57 pm (UTC)
This post is full of far too many awesome gifs. :o)

Has The Borgias officially been renewed?
sherrilina: Cesare/Lucrezia 3 (The Borgias)sherrilina on September 12th, 2011 02:36 am (UTC)
Thanks! :D And oh yes it was renewed months back, there's already been tidbits about season 2! ;) Wish we didn't have to wait so long for next season though...*sigh*
Batgirlsikeminatural on September 15th, 2011 11:00 pm (UTC)
OT3....meh. Lol. I only really liked Cas in s4. After that I felt as though they were forcing me to accept him as a main character, which imo isn't what the show was about at all. So I'll be so happy when he goes, lol. I've missed the show being about Sam and Dean.
sherrilina: Sam 'n' Dean (Supernatural)sherrilina on September 15th, 2011 11:22 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I have to disagree, I don't think they made out Cas to be any more of a main character than Bobby for instance (for all that Misha was a regular and Bobby a recurring guest star contractually, I'd say Bobby was onscreen as much, if not moreso than Cas), or said they were as big as Sam and Dean. In s5 for instance the vast majority of Cas's epps involve him being in them in little scenes often at beginning and end amounting to no more than 5-8 min in all, and much of the epp would still be Sam and Dean. I love the brothers and agree that they are the focus of the show (or the Winchester family rather), but I also kind of hate their foreveralone!! fate and like them having a few other friends they could rely on--hell I consider Cas and Bobby to be like family to them, as Dean says in the end of s6. (And family is one of the main themes of the show of course). I'm not someone who needs to see Cas in every single episode, I'm fine with most being just Sam and Dean, but I like Cas coming back/being in epps at least sometimes, b/c I love the dynamic between the three of them as well. *shrug* It pains me to never have that be an option, ie envision the show with no more Cas ever even offscreen.

But whatever, at least we can agree about liking Sam best! ;)

PS- is your most recent post spoilery past the 7x01 description?

Edited at 2011-09-15 11:28 pm (UTC)
Batgirlsikeminatural on September 15th, 2011 11:43 pm (UTC)
Did I tag the post as season 7? I didn't mention s7. Its about the s6 finale, lol. So you're safe.
sherrilina: Arthur/Chicken (Merlin)sherrilina on September 26th, 2011 04:08 am (UTC)
Haha well you had "season 7" in the title so...:p But now I understand that bit of your tagging system, so I will know for future reference...;)
Batgirlsikeminatural on September 26th, 2011 11:44 am (UTC)
Haha! Usually I'll mention in the title if its spoilery or not b/c I haven't mastered the whole lj cut thing on mobile posting yet. :)
Batgirlsikeminatural on September 15th, 2011 11:49 pm (UTC)
I think the problem in the end for me was that Cas was really only there for Dean. He had that bond with Dean etc and we had Bobby say he likes Dean better and stuff. So for me Cas was just someone for Dean and not both brothers to turn to. In season 5 he was kinda useless, lol. Haha. And I just got bored of watching him and Dean eye-fuck each other all the time.
sherrilina: Sam and Cas (Supernatural)sherrilina on September 26th, 2011 04:43 am (UTC)
Eh, I'd have to srongly disagree that he was only there for Dean, a lot, lol...while he seemed a bit more awkward around Sam and sometimes called him an "abomination" and whatnot, he was still quite protective of/loyal to him during season 5, telling Lucifer in 5x10, "You are not taking Sam Winchester!", and then telling Anna flat out that he would not go along with her plan to kill Sam because "Sam is my friend" and threatening to kill her if she tried it. Later in that epp when Sam asks Cas if Anna's plan could work, Cas clearly lies to make Sam feel better/not feel guilty and want to try the plan. Fast-forward to "99 Problems," Cas still answers Sam's phone call and helps him research/look for Dean all night, and then in 5x18 he helps Sam get Dean contained. In the end of s5 we see Cas comforting Sam about his plan to take in Lucifer and jump in the hole, telling Sam that he will tell him it's a crazy idea if that's what he wants to hear, but that he doesn't believe it's insane. He was supportive of Sam's plan when Sam needed that, though he explained the risks too. (And then he saved Sam in that epp using the gun). In the finale we also had that nice little scene where Sam says goodbye to Cas, and asks him to look out for Bobby and Dean, and then after catching on Cas does just that, trying to lie to comfort Sam, though making Sam laugh at his totally unconvincing, hopeless manner.

Then in season 6 we find out that apparently Cas did try to save Sam from Hell, even if he screwed it up, and he was concerned about Sam's well being to an extent, even if he was concerned about the wrong parts of Sam (ie his body not just his soul being tortured in Hell). He was very upset when Sam was in a coma at first after being ensouled, clearly he cared somewhat. When Sam woke up and was okay, Cas immediately answers his prayer and is SO relieved that he attempts to give Sam a hug (something he's never tried with Dean)!

So I'd say that there are plenty of instances when Cas has helped out Sam or been a friend to him, and it's clear that Sam considers him as such in s5 and s6, when you see him calling Cas in "99 Problems" for help, and concerned about Drunk!Cas, when he was so concerned about Cas in the time-traveling epp, the way he's all "Cas!" and upset when Cas pops away in despair at the end of the heaven epp, when he's all "Cas is alive?!" and relieved both in the end of s5 after 5x18, and in s6 when he wakes up ensouled and remembers what happened when he was Samifer. Then you have Sam asking Cas for advice/what he thinks in the time-travel Anna epp and then about his Lucifer plan, and apparently even soulless!Sam was constantly calling on Cas for answers....and then there's him admonishing Dean for hurting Cas's feelings in that one epp of s6, and the comment in 6x20 about "I'd die for him", and then still trying to reach out to Cas when they were tyring to save Lisa, thinking he'd help. AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE S7 PREMIERE.

TL;DR: Sam and Cas definitely have their own bond/friendship, even if it's not as well developed/shown as often as Dean/Cas is, so I'd say that he is a friend of the BROTHERS, and not just Dean. That he is family to them BOTH, just like Bobby...and lol, well he did help a fair bit in s5 I'd say, with the time-traveling and key factoids/infodumps and getting Dean back and Molotov cocktails to buy Dean time with Samifer, saving them in the first epp from Zachariah, branding their ribs to hide them from Michael and Lucifer, etc. :p IDK, I like his arc there of slowly losing his mojo from being cut-off and becoming human, but still giving his all to the brothers' cause.

Edited at 2011-09-26 04:45 am (UTC)
Batgirlsikeminatural on September 26th, 2011 11:57 am (UTC)
Good lord. This comment is long. I think we might have to agree to disagree. There are some things that Cas has done that the brothers don't/didn't know about. He let Sam out of the panic room before he opened the door for Lucifer. Was it for Sam's greater good? No. He also lied by omission about how Sam got out of hell. I personally think that while he was a good friend romo Dean, he wasn't necessarily "good". Less ruthless maybe.

Yeah, he helped Sam all of those times. But it just seems like indirectly he does it all for Dean. That's my take on it...we'll agree to disagree. I talk about Sam/Cas in my ep review. I will post it later today
sherrilina: Sam and Cas (Supernatural)sherrilina on September 26th, 2011 08:55 pm (UTC)
But those bad things Cas did/concealed from the brothers were instances of being a bad friend to DEAN as well--letting Sam out of the cage directly undermined Dean's efforts to save Sam/went behind Dean's back (I mean tbh Cas was helping Sam out from Sam's pov at that time, even if it wasn't in Sam's true best interests), and then Cas being so hard on Dean in 5x02, blaming so much of the Apocalypse on him/saying he failed and acting like he hadn't had a hand in it himself either, when he had contributed by letting out....and then to not tell Dean that Sam was out of the cage when he knew Dean would have wanted to know, and moreover alert him to the fact that something was wrong with Sam...again, he was being an equally bad friend to Dean in that instance as he was to Sam. I'm not saying he never failed to be supportive/a friend, he did wrong at times, but it was to BOTH boys.

And well you can cynically see it as all being indirectly for Dean I suppose, but I find it kind of hard to believe that Cas would not have acquired any affection for Sam during all his time with the boys. I don't see why he'd feel like hugging Sam with relief in s6 if he didn't really feel anything for him, or why he'd specifically tell Anna that Sam was his friend (he could have just left it at "you are not killing Sam" or something like with Lucifer earlier. Likewise in the scene in 5x21 when he says he believes in Sam's plan, that was BEFORE Dean was onboard with said plan, Dean probably would have been pissed to hear Cas giving Sam encouragement on that count, so I don't think that would have just been trying to help Dean, etc. In the premiere he says the boys were his favorite pets, plural. *shrug*
Batgirlsikeminatural on September 26th, 2011 11:19 pm (UTC)
I agree that he saw Sam as a friend in the end but I just think it was by association. In season 4, it was Dean and Cas - they built up their relationship. In 6x03 when Dean calls for Cas he came straight away, yet Sam says he tried but Cas never showed. (And that whole invisible thing was such a downer to me but even if he was there in spirit - he didn't answer Sam). They didn't have the same kind of relationship that Dean and Cas did. I'd say Sam was his friend the same way Bobby was his friend.

Considering that he was the one t pull them both out of hell the differences in the respective relationships are there.
sherrilina: Sam and Cas (Supernatural)sherrilina on September 27th, 2011 03:10 am (UTC)
In 6x03 when Dean calls for Cas he came straight away, yet Sam says he tried but Cas never showed. (And that whole invisible thing was such a downer to me but even if he was there in spirit - he didn't answer Sam).

But Cas made it clear in 6x03 that he only answered right away when Dean called because of the heavenly weapons that were at stake, not just because of Dean calling in of himself. And the implied reason he doesn't answer Sam all summer, IMO, in light of 6x20 is that he realized something had gone wrong with raising Sam (when Sam walks away from Lisa's house while Cas observes, looking perplexed), and reacted in his classic way of repressing/denying the incident in his mind, and thus didn't want to answer Sam b/c he didn't want to have to deal with that/face questions he felt guilty about answering. As soon as Sam is fully back to normal with his soul and calls, Cas answered instantly....and with the invisible thing, he didn't answer Sam, BUT HE DIDN'T ANSWER DEAN EITHER in 6x20--he was just avoiding the boys, period at that point, more or less.

And I just don't see him considering Sam the same way he does Bobby, he's shown waaay more concern for Sam on the show...:/ I'm not really sure how much he likes Bobby, since Bobby is usually pretty rude/mean to him, tbh. *shrug*

Considering that he was the one t pull them both out of hell the differences in the respective relationships are there.

But they were completely different circumstances--with Dean, Cas did a good job to be proud of and no qualms, with Sam he realized pretty soon after that something was off, which affected things (being one to avoid sticky issues as he is, see his entire lie of omission regarding letting Sam out of the panic room).
Iz: The Borgiasamaranthine3 on October 1st, 2011 02:12 am (UTC)
Can I just steal your brain? I love your justifications so much, that when I read your opinions about Cesare and Lucrezia I felt like you were reading my mind :D. I couldn't have written it any better! :)

Really though I think they can just count as one character though, two halves of the same soul...;) Just LOOK at them! <33

And this sentence is so beautiful <3
sherrilina: Cesare/Lucrezia 2 (The Borgias)sherrilina on October 2nd, 2011 07:28 pm (UTC)
Haha ~brain twins~ FTW! :D Glad we are on the same page where they are concerned, just such a beautiful, epic pairing! <333

And thanks! :)