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23 December 2011 @ 09:18 pm
The Borgias Season 2 Promo, Season 1 in Review, and Other 2011 TV...  
First off, in my last post I meant to thank cuposunny and decadentdream for the holiday cards, thedoingofit and kilodalton for the vgifts, and nbaeker for the adorable holiday Treehaus fic! *hugs* I should have all of my cards sent off by tomorrow, I'm trying to finish them tonight (yes, I'm late, whatever! :p)

Anyway, has everyone seen the season 2 trailer for The Borgias yet? So epic-looking, even if some of the hairstyling looks a bit off (dammit Cesare, curly hair is evidently not for you! O_o)...I'd been dying for this, realizing that the s1 trailer had come out around this time last year, so I was so pleased we did finally get it! A few more thoughts:

First of all, I noticed from the trailer that a) the guy who played Barty Crouch in HP and John Lumic in DW seems to be in this season (I'd recognize that weird accent/voice and constipated expression anywhere!) and b) they seem to be making up Juan to look like Gonzalo from Águila Roja, lol (there's an HBIC Lucrecia in that show too):

I'm glad we will be seeing more of the French King, he was so much fun last season! Shit looks like it's getting truly real now, some intense stuff going down... And it looks like we will be getting more glorious Cesare/Lucrezia! ♥

Yeah, they look sooo sibling-like there in that last Carnival image...:p Unfff...

The scene where she says "Show me your hands, Cesare. Is it true what the rumors say, that they are stained with blood?" gives me chills! I'm definitely looking forward to seeing Cesare's further descent into darkness (hopefully ending in him actually killing Juan as I'm suspecting, which should be fascinating), though I do hope that he and Lucrezia won't become too estranged because of it, that she will stay his constant love and comfort at least through the next season (I couldn't bear to not have the same adorable, sweet and tender scenes between them abound as in last season). Though maybe it won't be an issue if Lucrezia is also becoming darker and more ruthless at the same time, as it would seem from the final delightfully creepy scene of the trailer...;)

I've needed this show back in my life like last week, is it April yet?! I'm excited for the fandom to pick up again in full swing as well...

I also realize I never quite got around to posting my thoughts on s1 here after the premiere (fail, self, fail), so I thought I'd repost my answers to The Borgias Season 1 in Review Meme I wrote for/posted on cesare_lucrezia last May:

General Series Questions

Favorite Episode: Hard to pick, I adored so many, especially at the end too, but I think I'll go with 1x04 Lucrezia's Wedding, which just balanced everything perfectly I think and had min. Ursula still...:p Though IDK, 1x08 and 1x09 come close behind it I think, and I also really love 1x01/1x02.../indecisive

Favorite Character(s): Cesare and Lucrezia (surprise!), in that order, though really I love almost everyone (besides Ursula) so...:p Special shout-outs to the delightful French King Charles and Prince Alfonso of Naples! ;)

Favorite Ships besides C/L: I don't really have any actually, I mean there aren't so many ships on the show (not counting the two false-ish ones of U/C and L/P), and nothing really ignites passion in me besides C/L. Though Cesare/Micheletto amuses me as well...;)

Favorite Actor(s)/Performance(s): IDK, three-way-tie between FA, HG, and JI? :p Though since I already knew JI would be excellent I feel extra props for Francois and Holliday are due...

Best HBIC: Lucrezia Borgia, especially as seen in the end of the series when she basically saved the day with her feminine wiles! ;) Can't wait to see her BAMF-ittude increase...

Best Troll: Hard with the likes of Alfonso, Charles, and Rodrigo in the running, but I gotta give it to Juan, who trolled hardest and longest, especially now that we know that he has been literally trolling since birth! :p

Giulia or Vanozza? Or Both? I do prefer Vanozza (and feel for her), Giulia kind of took a while to grow on me (I find her hard to figure out sometimes, especially in her relationship with Rodrigo), though I did especially love Giulia during the final arc with Lucrezia, so...

Cesare&Lucrezia Questions:

Favorite C/L moment/scene: So hard but...scene where he's nursing her back to health in my icon at her bedside I think, followed by their opening frolicking-in-the-grass scene. ;) And then there's the dinner knife scene too...gah, Neil Jordan was good to us! :)

Favorite C/L line: "If anything happened to her...I'd die" "You'll always have me." (okay I cheated and put two...:p)

Best episode for C/L (ie. one with the most/best moments): I think it's Lucrezia's Wedding (1x04)--hmm, what a coincidence it's my fave epp! :p--though the finale was sure loaded as well....

Scene you would have liked to see between them this season (filler, etc): I really would have liked to see the aftermath of when she confronts her father about her mother attending her wedding, Cesare comforting her about it--we see him grab for her and then it abruptly cuts to the next scene, to my frustration! >:(

Best Lucrezia outfit/hairdo combo: Her wedding dress/hair, though I do love her blue outfit in 1x06 as well...

Cardinal Robes or Leather Pants for Cesare? (Or both? :p): Both, but if I had to choose one I'd actually go with the Cardinal's Robes, I have a kink for men in long coats/robes things...;)

Gifs (3 max):

Perfect fit! <333

God could they be any more tender and beautiful and sweet?! ^_^

Overall my favorite episodes were "Lucrezia's Wedding," "Nessuno (Nobody)," "The Art of War," and the double premiere "The Poisoned Chalice/The Assassin," while my least favorite episode was "Borgias in Love" (ugh Ursula)--though aside from that episode I pretty much enjoyed every episode, and look forward to marathoning season 1 again in time for season 2...I just loved pretty much ALL the characters, and think the writing, acting, and production values were all excellent quality. I felt so gripped by Cesare and Lucrezia's stories in particular (duh!), though I thought the other characters' stories were plenty interesting as well. I liked the focus on this one family and their complex dynamics, as well as the history and drama. So many funny and witty moments, as well as emotional and tragic ones....okay I'll stop rambling, but in short, my heart belongs to this show! ♥

Speaking of TV in review, here's a general TV meme I snagged from sunnytyler001:

Which TV shows did you start watching in 2011?

A lot this year, actually: The Borgias (<333), Being Human US, The Secret Diary of a Call Girl, Downton Abbey, Camelot, Game of Thrones, Sherlock, Misfits, Arrested Development, andCommunity...I think that's it! Luckily most of these have short seasons. :p

Which TV shows did you let go of in 2011?

Well aside from giving up on The Secret Circle after one epp, I only let go of Camelot because it was canceled--tbh I have a hard time letting go of anything, unfortunately, even shows that make me want to tear my hair out or bore me to tears...if I ever loved a show at one time, I feel like I'm obligated to watch from there on out, no matter what (I marry my TV shows, one could say perhaps, lol).

I've also fallen hopelessly behind on my Spanish show Águila Roja, but I haven't quite given up on finishing that someday, so it doesn't count!

Which TV shows did you mean to get into but didn't in 2011?

I meant to watch Legend of the Seeker over the summer, since I've heard it's good and it was on Netflix Instant, but then after watching the Pilot I never quite got around to watching any more than that....I also apparently meant to try Fringe according to last year's Fandom Year in Review, but that sure didn't happen either, lol. And I know I originally had intended to watch Ringer this fall for SMG and such, but I didn't end up having time...

Which TV shows do you intend on checking out in 2012?

Well it depends on how much TV I manage to catch up on before the new year, but definitely Once Upon a Time for starters, since I've been hearing such good things about it from so many flisters! Ringer too, gotta catch up in time to watch the Misha epp at least...;) I also have heard good things about The Hour, Revenge, and Switched at Birth, so I might check those out as well if I have time...

Which TV show impressed you least in 2011?

Of the shows I watch, probably Doctor Who, because lawd was s6 a total mess, offensive and failtastic on so many levels...O_o Talk about killing most of my enthusiasm for currently airing Who! Well done, Moffat, well done. Maybe with new companions and arcs it will be better, but with Moffat at the reigns I wouldn't count on it, he's too repetitive and similar in his stuff to really expect better fleshed-out companions, etc...:/

Which TV show do you think you might let go of in 2012 unless things significantly improve?

Again, I find it super hard to drop any show, but I'm beginning to think I might drop Bones if s7 continues to be as excruciatingly boring 90% of the time as the last two seasons have been...I'm just thankful there are only 13 epps to slog through this season. :/ I wish it would just end already, it's already way past time...

I'm also not sure how much longer I'll be continuing with the supposed Being Human (UK), since it's really not BH anymore anyway without Mitchell, and now that George is going too after this season, IDEK what the hell they're going to do, or why they're bothering to continue! >:( I'm furious that they even considered making a series beyond s4 (they should have made s4 the last one, wrapped things up), it was not only unnecessary, but also means then that we'll have to wait yet another season for the Annie ending M/A-shippers are hoping for...seriously, what would Annie have left really with both Mitchell and George gone, why wouldn't she finally cross over?! Way to take a great show and totally run it into the ground Toby...*rolleyes* /rant

And as for Merlin...well, I still need to finish watching this season, though the things I've heard have already pissed me off and made me reluctant to watch. :/ If next season were the last, as promised all along, then I wouldn't drop it, but otherwise...we'll see. I should eventually think of my blood pressure, lol.

Which TV shows do you think you'll never let go of no matter how crappy they get?

Well so far that's true of every show (I'm just too loyal for my own good, lol), but I think especially now that Supernatural will always have a place in my heart through thick and thin...<333 Though I certainly hope it'd never get to the point where that is tempting, as some of my other shows have...

And now I've just seen this interesting-looking TV-related meme from kilodalton

Give me a fandom (or several) and I will tell you my:

Favourite character:
Least Favourite character:
5 Favourite ships (canon or non-canon):
Character I find most attractive:
Character I would marry:
Character I would be best friends with:
A random thought:
An unpopular opinion:
Canon OTP:
Non-canon OTP:
Most badass character:
Pairing I am not a fan of:
Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another):
Favourite friendship:
Character I want to adopt or be adopted by

Current Mood: excitedexcited
Current Music: "Born to Die" by Lana Del Ray
galathea_snbgalathea_snb on December 24th, 2011 10:24 am (UTC)
Aww, it makes me happy that Supernatural will be the show that will have your heart through thick and thin! ♥

I have no problems letting shows go. Even shows that I have been very taken with for a while. Once it becomes a chore to watch or even to remember the download, I usually drop them. I rather prefer to remember shows fondly than getting to the point where I start resenting a show for letting me down. :)

Oh, btw, I backed up my livejournal on dreamwidth as well - as galathea. It's really nice that you can import your complete livejournal into dreamwidth. Very handy!

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sherrilina: Sam 'n' Dean (Supernatural)sherrilina on December 24th, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC)
Lol, SN got its hooks into me alright, even if not quite to your extent! ;)

Well I envy you that, but I am just too loyal for my own good, and also I think it's a matter of needing to know what happens in the end/next to characters I did once love and care about...*sigh* I just find it hard to let go of them.

And okay cool thanks, I'll look you up there and try this backing up thing! I like the idea of being able to back up comments as well, that's great...
Nina: <skins> oh wow hugs!honeymink on December 24th, 2011 10:42 am (UTC)
I couldn't bear to not have the same adorable, sweet and tender scenes between them abound as in last season

I agree. This is what worries me most. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't adore something so much because it doesn't happen often and then when they take it from me I'm really sad.

I'm not sure who I want to kill Juan tbh.

And this is all, I was thinking about the hair issue:


Oh the meme... well, while you are at it, The Borgias then?
sherrilina: Cesare (The Borgias)sherrilina on December 24th, 2011 10:05 pm (UTC)
Well I haven't given up hop yet, I think they realize how popular they are, and it' not like the s1 trailer had a lot of C/L scenes either...

Personally I want Cesare to kill Juan, because they've been hinting at it since 1x01 with that one line, and we've had this wonderful built-up of their rivalry and his bitterness and jealousy towards Juan all throughout s1, so I do hope to see it pay off in the end....the only time I hope it's not Cesare is out of fear of what Lucrezia would say....:/

And LMAO, that gif is trufax! :p (Though I still have yet to see the Fontana Borgia...).

An okay awesome, I'll fill that out soon then! :)
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sherrilina: Cesare/Lucrezia 3 (The Borgias)sherrilina on December 26th, 2011 11:01 pm (UTC)
Sorry for being a little late on this!

The Borgias:

Favourite character: Cesare & Lucrezia tied, if anything maybe Cesare *slightly* more--but hell, they're two halves of one soul in two bodies anyway, etc...:p They are both so fascinating and compelling though, and well-acted....
Least Favourite character: URSULA, ugh so pointless and annoying! >:( Worst part about the show...
5 Favourite ships (canon or non-canon): CESARE/LUCREZIA OTP and...not much else, tbh, this isn't really a show where I ship much, unusually enough. I ship Cesare/Micheletto and Rodrigo/Vanozza a little bit, maybe some Juan/Sancia, but C/L is the only one I'm passionate about.
Character I find most attractive: Cesare, hands down...;) Francois is smoking & I can't resist the long robes or leather pants. Though it looks like they're trying to ugly him up a bit with the new wig in s2. :/
Character I would marry: God nobody, they all have their issues...O_o Except Djem actually, he seemed super kind and sweet and smart, and treated Lucrezia right, so assuming he didn't die, I'd marry him.
Character I would be best friends with: Lucrezia, she's smart and sweet and witty and awesome...
A random thought: I began shipping C/L when I saw the goddamn TRAILER for the show months earlier, that's how irresistible they are to me...
An unpopular opinion: I'm not entirely sure what's unpopular in the fandom that I agree with...perhaps that I think Francois gave a more impressive performance than Jeremy Irons did this past season? Or that I love Juan for being a troll, lol?
Canon OTP: IDK, Rodrigo/Vanozza I guess, assuming C/L doesn't count?
Non-canon OTP: CESARE/LUCREZIA FOREVER OFC! <333 Should be canon...
Most badass character: Cesare and Lucrezia again, in their respective BAMF and HBIC ways...;) Especially toward the end of the season as they develop and get a dark, ruthless, manipulative side.
Pairing I am not a fan of: Ursula/Cesare, so superficial, unrealistic, forced/fake and pointless, and no chemistry and terrible writing and uggggh the one blight on an otherwise flawless season.
Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): Hmm, well Gioffre gets so little screen-time/development, so maybe him, though also Ursula is so badly written, maybe she could have worked better if they hadn't screwed her up so....
Favourite friendship: Lucrezia/Francesca (her maid)--not counting C/L's friendship of course...;) I liked how F & L looked out for each other.
Character I want to adopt or be adopted by: Vanozza seems like she's a pretty loving and caring mom, so I guess her! Rodrigo not so much.

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Always distant. Always silent.: Downton Abbey - Verathemirrorofsin on December 24th, 2011 12:55 pm (UTC)
LOL Juan the Troll <3 but Alfonso... man he's so epic! I can't believe how excited I am for this!

last meme: Downton Abbey since someone asked for The Borgias already XD
sherrilina: Edith (Downton Abbey)sherrilina on December 24th, 2011 10:00 pm (UTC)
Heh they should join up with Thomas and form a Trolls Club! :p

And okay sweet, I just finally caught up with season 2 last night! ;)

Downton Abby:

Favourite character: Lady Edith Crawley, haters gonna hate...
Least Favourite character: Branson! Ugh he was so smug and obnoxious this season...
5 Favourite ships (canon or non-canon): Matthew/Mary, Thomas/Blind Lieutenant, Edith/Patrick (the real one), Robert/Cora...and IDK, that's it? Maybe Robert/Jane sort of in a very wrong way
Character I find most attractive: Matthew
Character I would marry: Matthew again (except that he belongs with Mary! ;))
Character I would be best friends with: NGL I think I could see myself getting along with Edith nicely enough, especially in season 2, or maybe Sybil in s1 (she's so nice, and I love her politics in s1).
A random thought: When I first saw the promotional posters for DA in Cardiff/London in September 2010 I thought that Thomas was the same guy who played Brother Mine in DW, though I was wrong...
An unpopular opinion: That my favorite character is Edith, and that I actually enjoy Thomas for being the massive troll he is, even in s1?
Canon OTP: Matthew/Mary!
Non-canon OTP: Thomas/Lieutenant Courtenay I guess (dammit, why cut so short so soon? ;_;)
Most badass character: I think I gotta go with Violet, the true HBIC of the place! ;) Followed by Mary and O'Brien...
Pairing I am not a fan of: After s2, Sybil/Branson and Anna/Bates, got they were so annoying and repetitive, I don't see what either woman sees in their respective LI. :s
Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): Sybil
Favourite friendship: Thomas & O'Brien, the Evil Dynamic Duo of Trolls! ;) I love their little cigarette pow-wows and how O'Brien does genuinely seem to care for him and miss him when he's at war.
Character I want to adopt or be adopted by: IDK, Robert and Cora seem like okay parent I guess, for the time? Or maybe Mrs. Hughes and Carson, especially if Carson was as attached to me as he is to Mary...

What about you? :)

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Jenniferhmsharmony on December 24th, 2011 06:38 pm (UTC)
LOL! I, too, watched the pilot of LOTS and then never managed to continue. XD Glad I'm not alone! And thissssss to not being able to quit shows no matter how awful they get. What is with that? D=

sherrilina: Arthur/Chicken (Merlin)sherrilina on December 24th, 2011 07:16 pm (UTC)
Haha ah Jen, we are so alike in so many ways...and the not being able to let go of shows is our curse I suppose! The curse of the TV Ladies</em>

And damn, that bad, huh? :/ Wasn't the last epp (penultimate epp?) supposedly good? IDK, I'm just going to go in with rock-bottom expectations when I do finally watch it...
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Iz: The Borgias 2amaranthine3 on December 28th, 2011 11:05 pm (UTC)
The trailer for s2 looks pretty amazing! I got the feel that things will be different from s1 and left me even more excited :D. And I guess almost everyone changes also looks-wise, maybe except Rodrigo. Though while I love Lucrezia's new hairstyles, Cesare indeed doesn't look good with curls, unless he wears a hat xD.
sherrilina: Lucrezia Borgia (The Borgias)sherrilina on December 29th, 2011 09:08 pm (UTC)
Well I just hope that while it's different with a darker tone, it will still be just as good quality-wise (and in terms of lots of lovely C/L! ;)), if not better! But ugh, why the hair...:( I do agree that Lucrezia's hair looks fine though.
Iz: The Borgias 2amaranthine3 on December 30th, 2011 12:26 am (UTC)
I agree! I think it looks good so far, so I hope it's not only a few scenes they chose for the sneak peek. And I certainly yearn for some C/L scenes :D. Haha, I guess I will love Cesare all the same but I can't help but grin every time I see these curls xD.

Edit: Also, your icon is highly appropriate to our feelings towards his haircut ^^

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I forgot my name, and drowned.: [comic] hey snow whitethedoingofit on January 3rd, 2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
I actually hadn't seen the trailer for season two until now, thanks to your link, and now I'm super pumped! I'm SO excited to see the relationship between Cesare and Lucrezia develop, and I'm also sort of hoping that we'll see them descend into darkness together... :o)

You should definitely check out The Hour: it's amazing and there's only six episodes, so it's not too much of an investment.

Have you finished Merlin yet? Thoughts?
sherrilina: Cesare/Lucrezia (The Borgias)sherrilina on January 3rd, 2012 09:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, descending into darkness together, love that! :D Hope it happens, and glad you got to see the trailer now...

Thanks for the rec! And no, I haven't...right now I'm catching up on Community, and will probably do Misfits/Boardwalk Empire next, not sure when I'll do Merlin--what I've heard I'm not impressed though. Did you see BE yet?
I forgot my name, and drowned.: [borgias] weddingthedoingofit on January 4th, 2012 03:08 pm (UTC)
Yes, descending into darkness together, love that!
I know, I know! And I think they could do it, and still maintain the dynamic that they have right now, with him protecting her and everything! So much potential! :DDD

Did you see BE yet?
Nooo, and I can't decide if I want to commit to the second season yet... What did you think, or have you not seen it yet?